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Robert Smith of The Cure

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So, let's type him, if it hasn't been done before, i'm going for 5w4 or 4w5, he has this brooding dark romanticism in his lyrics. What do you guys think??



[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnvAndYMjzw"]Prayers For Rain[/YOUTUBE]



[YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4jhZH2dbws"]Robert on Jimmy Kimmel[/YOUTUBE]
 

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4w3.. highly individualistic (type4), but more image conscious (3 wing)

ISFP.. well because he is the consumate artist, He is weird, sensitive and passionate. He likes to make a statement and does so through his art and image.



More subjectively, I am the type of person who seems to make friends with artsy types
and so, I can often spot ISFPs from a mile away.
 

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INFP, 4w5.

He's more idealistic & romantic than concrete and in-the-moment, IMO. He's very well-read and works concepts from novels into his song lyrics (sooo many Cure songs reference literature). He's not a great physical performer - it's unusual for him to speak much at shows & do much besides play guitar & sing in a still position (I see 3s as having a better performing side). Yes, he cultivates an image (e4s usually do), but actually has an "off" sense of style (he doesn't pull it off al that well). He'll have his crazy hair & goth makeup but be wearing a sports jersey.... To me, much of this implies Ne over Se, and a 5 wing over 3 wing.
 

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INFP, 4w5.

He's more idealistic & romantic than concrete and in-the-moment, IMO. He's very well-read and works concepts from novels into his song lyrics (sooo many Cure songs reference literature). He's not a great physical performer - it's unusual for him to speak much at shows & do much besides play guitar & sing in a still position (I see 3s as having a better performing side). Yes, he cultivates an image (e4s usually do), but actually has an "off" sense of style (he doesn't pull it off al that well). He'll have his crazy hair & goth makeup but be wearing a sports jersey.... To me, much of this implies Ne over Se, and a 5 wing over 3 wing.

You could argue that he pulls his image off perfectly..no?.. how can you say his image isn't supposed to be offbeat and a little imperfect? The whole idea of individuality is to do something that no one else is doing. In that sense his sense of fashion is groundbreaking. As is his music style and the contrast between the emoting lyrics and the almost deadpan deliverance of them.
On the surface it all seems so acidental. But no one makes it without hard work and dedication and lots of it. To me there is nothing accidental about the cure. There is intregrity and enough subculture to suggest IXFP.
Being a lover of lit and working it into songs is nothing new. Many artist find their inspiration from other art. All art tells a story.. this is not the exclusive realm of the N.
I would be willing to bend on the 5w vs 3w.. But I am holding on for dear life that he is an ISFP. :devil:
 

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You could argue that he pulls his image off perfectly.. how can you say his image isn't supoosed to be offbeat and a little imperfect? The whole idea of individuality is to do something that no one else is doing. In that sense his sense of fashion is groundbreaking. As is his music style and the contrast between the emoting lyrics and the almost deadpan deliverance of them.
On the surface it all seems so acidental. But no one makes it without hard work and dedication and lots of it. To me there is nothing accidental about the cure. There is intregrity and enough subculture to suggest IXFP.
Being a lover of lit and working it into songs is nothing new. Many artist find their inspitation from other art. All art tells a story.. this is not the exclusive realm of the N.
I would be willing to bend on the 5w vs 4w.. But I am holding on for dear life that he is an ISFP. :devil:

None of that suggests S over N either. ISFPs are not the only artists either.
I don't know what "accidental" has to do with it anyway; and I'd argue that when younger he seemed more contrived anyway. Whether planned or not, his style doesn't always work from an aesthetic standpoint, and not because it's offbeat. Check my Siouxsie avatar - obviously I appreciate strange style.

I do think working concepts from novels into song lyrics slightly suggests N over S. If we're going by functions, I'd expect more experience-oriented lyrics than concepts derived from fiction. Not to mention, the idealistic aspect is ever-present in the Cure's lyrics.
 

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INFP, 4w5.

agreed.

i feel confident that he is an INFP 4w5.
quite a poster child for those types together, i think.


which reminds me.... i know a guy who has worked in the music business for a while and he once told me that i strangely reminded him of robert smith, actually... he cited a withdrawn, sort of awkward demeanor and a quirky humor as his reasons...

said robert was not at all outwardly friendly or outgoing but when engaged revealed that surprisingly, he was not only aware of his surroundings, but had a sense of humor, too! "who wouldve guessed that beneath all that brooding there was funny guy!", he said.

all i could do was laugh. i'm still not entirely sure if he was making fun of him/me or trying to be gracious...
 

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agreed.

i feel confident that he is an INFP 4w5.
quite a poster child for those types together, i think.

Yes, I've always seen him as a prototypical INFP enneagram 4 also.

I just thought of how much he comes across like Johnny Depp in interviews too - compare the two and their demeanor/vibe is similar, IMO.
 

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I don't think he was contrived when younger. Pornography and Disintegration are still the best albums imo. :)

INFP 4 seems likely for Smith though.
 

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INFP, 4w5.

He's more idealistic & romantic than concrete and in-the-moment, IMO. He's very well-read and works concepts from novels into his song lyrics (sooo many Cure songs reference literature).

Yes, absolutely. Note "Charlotte Sometimes" and "Killing an Arab."

He's not a great physical performer - it's unusual for him to speak much at shows & do much besides play guitar & sing in a still position (I see 3s as having a better performing side). Yes, he cultivates an image (e4s usually do), but actually has an "off" sense of style (he doesn't pull it off al that well). He'll have his crazy hair & goth makeup but be wearing a sports jersey.... To me, much of this implies Ne over Se, and a 5 wing over 3 wing.

The reason why I think he has a 3 wing is because he is so image conscious, like arclight mentioned. I think a wing 5 would be less outwardly ostentatious with his or her appearance. Even his behavior in interviews seems as though he's trying to get attention or make a statement, rather than being serious or intellectual.
 

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Yes, absolutely. Note "Charlotte Sometimes" and "Killing an Arab."

The reason why I think he has a 3 wing is because he is so image conscious, like arclight mentioned. I think a wing 5 would be less outwardly ostentatious with his or her appearance. Even his behavior in interviews seems as though he's trying to get attention or make a statement, rather than being serious or intellectual.

Quite honestly, I could be called "image conscious" when it comes to what I wear & I have a heavy 5 wing (I think it's the 4 that makes one use appearance as expression). I don't think anyone would confuse me with a 3 wing....but in any case, he is clearly a 4.
 
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