In what ways do the 5's and 8's differ?
I have found that my ENTP Enneagram 8 friend disagrees with the at times eccentric nature of the 5. Or better put, how the 5 can sometimes come off overly unique, much like the 4. He has a need for social etiquette. Something, I at first rejected but am trying to better adapt to. He sees opportunity in all social engagement and find that a lack of following the etiquette of certain social roles lacks grace. This is something that I have been churning around and come to agree with. Is this a trait true of all Enneagram 8's?
I think I have a keen sense of people's weaknesses whether or not I wish to. At times, I have to watch to make sure that my Ne is not just giving me a paranoid read on something. Does the 8 immediately see weaknesses in other people? 8's much like 5's can be a few clicks ahead of people. Do 8's test people? I have noticed that I at times can test people to gauge reaction's. I know a 5w6 who does this quite often. It isn't something that I as a 5w4 tend to engage as much but do at time's. Most of the time though, what people say is filtered through my analysis of them and I can see connections or areas where they are contradictory. This is of course human nature and I make it a point to be aware of my own contradictory roles.
What are the main differences between Enneagram 5 and Enneagram 8? I know each of us becomes the other when we are moving towards growth and thought this could be a useful thread.