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    Quote Originally Posted by Babylon Candle View Post
    I have an ISTP relative who seems 3 9 and 8.

    Could he simple be 9w8 with integration to 3? (he has had plenty of time to "grow into" the 3 integration). Is a 9 workaholic possible? A 9 who values material success? His demeanor certainly seems 9, and he can be aggressive when he feels the need to.

    :???:

    I'm a 9w8. Definitely not a workaholic or cares about material success much. A bit aggressive though in comparison to other 9's apparently.

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    I am also a 5w6, but have also tested as 5w4

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    ISTPs are usually something like 5, 6, 7, 9. But for some reason I think some are often 3s... I can't remember, that's probably ESTP though. Counter-Phobic 6s can look like 3s btw... I think.
    5 3 9

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    i think a lot of famous people are istps 3s. michael jordan. tom cruise. etc

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    I'm an ISTP and I'm a type 2....

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    3w4, 6w5, 7w8, 8w7, 8w9.
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    E=60% S=55% T=70% P=80%

    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

    "Stereotypes about personality and gender turn out to be fairly accurate: ... On the binary Myers-Briggs measure, the thinking-feeling breakdown is about 30/70 for women versus 60/40 for men." ~ Bryan Caplan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    3w4, 6w5, 7w8, 8w7, 8w9.
    Those are all bad fits, other than 6w5.

    The ISTP is... talented, but lazy at best. Not the Badass Directing Blowhard Achiever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Those are all bad fits, other than 6w5.

    The ISTP is... talented, but lazy at best. Not the Badass Directing Blowhard Achiever.
    JCF have nothing to do with laziness. As usual, you are wrong.

    ISTPs are very often:

    Active, playful, individualistic, energetic people who prefer to put feelings apart and concentrate on short-term goals and rational action: 3w4

    Assertive, rebelious, self-confident, active, energetic, free-spirited, physical and fun-loving people who like variety and are at ease using their brain and don't need anybody, but can be proective with the few they care about: 7w8

    Tough, self-confident, rebelious, assertive and physical people, who are attracted to intensity but prefer to strictly rely on themselves but can be protective with the few they care about: 8.
    EsTP 6w7 Sx/Sp

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    "I don't believe in guilt, I only believe in living on impulses"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speed Gavroche View Post
    JCF have nothing to do with laziness. As usual, you are wrong.
    It has a lot to do with function placement. Functions do not have static definitions in and of themselves. An introvert who still values sensual pleasures focuses it a lot on his own sense of space and comfort. Se becomes more focused on preferred areas and skills instead of throwing out some hyper ballistic energy out into the world. Nor do they value everything everyone else does. All IPs are critics. They won't take the obvious path of achievement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    It has a lot to do with function placement. Functions do not have static definitions in and of themselves. An introvert who still values sensual pleasures focuses it a lot on his own sense of space and comfort. Se becomes more focused on preferred areas and skills instead of throwing out some hyper ballistic energy out into the world. Nor do they value everything everyone else does. All IPs are critics. They won't take the obvious path of achievement.
    Enneagram is about he internal paradigm which regulate your outter behavior. It has nothing to do with prefering confort or exuberance. Also, ISTP, (like ESTPs actually) economize their energy. That does not mean they have a low level of energy. STP, I or E ar master of finding the best way to maximize their goals. Therefore it's not "they take the obvious path of achievment", it is "the path of achievment is obvious".


    You are probably one of those couch potato ISTPs with low energy, don't take your personal case for a generality.
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