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    Has anyone else noticed that the enneagram types coincide almost perfectly with numerology?

    In both numerology and emmeagram...

    1 is the Manager. They are exact, precise, very hard on themselves. Can be spiteful, don't like being told what to do, need to be #1.
    2 is the Peacemaker. They are loving, supportive, need calm and harmony. Can be clingy, passive-aggressive, manipulative.
    3 is the Performer. They are social, charismatic, artistic, unique, aware of their appearance. Can be immature, lack ambition, socially cruel (gossip), can love telling stories so much that they have trouble keeping secrets.
    4 is the Teacher. They're particular, don't have many friends, don't take criticism well, often very insecure, but when living on the positive side, their creativity makes them talented at trouble-shooting and they make excellent teachers.
    5 is the Free Spirit. They're compassionate, curious, independent, often impractical, eccentric and impulsive, enjoy escapism. Most likely to rebel.
    6 is the Nurturer. Responsible, cautious, no-nonsense, socially acceptable, tends to project emotions (if mom's not happy, nobody's happy), sometimes controlling.
    7 is the Spiritualist. Introspective, noncomformist, trouble expressing emotions, sometimes anxious and/or anti-social.
    8 is the Executive. Practical, blunt, black-and-white view of the world, often aggressive. Either king of the hill or scraping self up from the floor.
    9 is the Humanitarian. Often looked to for leadership without them wanting to lead. Peaceful, quiet strength, can hold grudges and have ego issues.

    In numberology...

    1, 5 and 7 are the Thinking numbers.
    2, 4 and 8 are the Practical numbers.
    3, 6 and 9 are the Feeling numbers.

    1, 5 and 7 are prone to physical addictions: alcohol, drugs, food, travel, exercise, knowledge (yes, collecting information can be an addiction), OCD, etc.

    2, 4 and 8 are prone to emotional issues: anger management, unable to hear criticism, controlling (whether passively or aggressively), insecurity, depression, etc. Can be tyrannical in extreme cases.

    3, 6 and 9 are prone to self-image issues: always giving to others while neglecting self, low self-esteem, emotional doormat, overblown sense of self, arrogant, narcissistic, etc. Megalomaniac tendendies in extreme cases.

    This is just sort of skimming the top. I can go more in-depth with my theories if you guys are interested.

    What do you think?
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    EDIT: I'm adding this since people are interested in knowing how to figure out their numerology numbers.

    LIFE PATH: This is the most important number in your chart. It's the core of who you are.

    Let’s use the birthdate 4/19/1983. So, I add it up this way: 4+1+9+1+9+8+3 = 35, 3 + 5 = 8. The Life Path number is 8.

    ATTITUDE: This is your second most important number and effects how you express your Life Path number. It's how a casual acquaintance might view you.

    The date is 4/19, 4+1+9 = 14, 1 + 5 = 5, so the Attitude number is 5.

    BIRTHDAY: The day you're born gives you an idea of the energy you express. Think of it as your body language. This is a person's first impression of you.

    The birth day is 19, 1+9 = 10, 1+0 = 1. So the Birth Date is 1.

    That's how you break down your date of birth to figure out your core numbers.

    Now, to figure out your name.

    USE THIS CHART.

    Use the name that you identify yourself with. Usually just your first and last name. Most people don't go around introducing themselves with their first, middle(s) and last. If you always identify yourself using your nickname (or a pseudonym), you use that.

    A man named Michael Sanders who calls himself Mike should be broken down as Mike Sanders.

    I have a friend whose name is David Hendricks but everyone calls him Toad. Even his mother calls him Toad. So, we simply break down the name Toad.

    Your name is the most fluid part of your numerological chart and can change as you wish it to. The only time you use your full birth name with no changes is when figuring your destiny number.

    SOUL NUMBER: Your Soul number is what you feel, what you want, what you need. It's the side of you that is the least obvious because it is not a side of a person's personality that is usually projected.

    To figure out your Soul Number, you use only the vowels.

    We will use the name Mary Riley.

    That would be A+I+E, which would be 1+9+5 = 15, 1+ 5 = 6.

    Mary Riley’s Soul Number would be 6.

    NOTE: If you have a name like Lynn or Sylvia or Sylvester, the Y would act as a vowel and you will factor it into your Soul Number. If your name is something like Maryanne, the Y would not act as a vowel because of the vowel next to it and would not be factored into your Soul Number. If you’re not sure how to break down your name because of this kind of confusion, just ask me in the thread or through PM.

    PERSONALITY NUMBER: This is the flip side of soul, the side of your personality that you project.

    Again, using Mary Riley.

    M+R+Y+R+L+Y, which would be 4+9+7+9+3+7 = 39, 3+9 = 12, 1+2 = 3.

    Mary Riley’s Personality Number would be 3.

    DESTINY NUMBER: This is a general guide of what direction you should take in life to be happy and fulfilled.

    You use your full birth name for this one. Let’s say the name is Mary Anne Riley. You would add up every single letter and break it down to a single digit. I trust you know how to do it by now.

    Mary Riley’s Destiny number is 7.

    So, her chart would look like this:

    Life Path 8
    Attitude 5
    Birthday 1
    Soul 6
    Personality 3
    Destiny 7

    Ok. I think that’s everything.

    Keep in mind that you don't read each number seperately. One number affects how you express another number in your chart and the placement is important. For example, if you have numbers that clash with each other in your own chart, you're going to be more conflicted and difficult to understand than someone whose numbers all flow in harmony.
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    I think it's hard to integrate what I know of my numerology into enneagram. I'm a 4, but all my numerology numbers are odd.

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    Probably not all that odd, just not very well explained. If you want to PM me you birthdate and (if you're comfortable) name I can write it up for you. Your choice.
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    My birth date = 1
    My name = 3
    My vowels = 5
    My consonants = 7

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    Doesn't quite work that way.

    Your entire birth date is your life path number, which you say is a 1.

    Your month + birth day is your attitude number. This is also very important.

    The day you were born also factors in.

    Also, you use the name that you identify yourself with. Usually just your first and last name. Most people don't go around introducing themselves with their first, middle(s) and last. If you always identify yourself using your nickname (or a pseudonym), you use that. Your name is the most fluid part of your numerological chart and can change as you wish them to. The only time you use your full birth name is when figuring your destiny number.

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    Well, I was born on the 4th. There y'go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pettycure View Post
    1, 5 and 7 are prone to physical addictions: alcohol, drugs, food, travel, exercise, knowledge (yes, collecting information can be an addiction), OCD, etc.
    Isn't that the truth.
    So I put my name into a numerology calculator and this is what I got:

    Your Expression number is 11. The number 11 is the first of the master numbers. It is associated with idealistic concepts and rather spiritual issues. Accordingly, it is a number with potentials that are somewhat more difficult to live up to. You have the capacity to be inspirational, and the ability to lead merely by your own example. An inborn inner strength and awareness can make you an excellent teacher, social worker, philosopher, or advisor. No matter what area of work you pursue, you are very aware and sensitive to the highest sense of your environment. Your intuition is very strong; in fact, many psychic people and those involved in occult studies have the number 11 expression. You possess a good mind with keen analytical ability. Because of this you can probably succeed in most lines of work, however, you will do better and be happier outside of the business world. Oddly enough, even here you generally succeed, owing to your often original and unusual approach. Nonetheless, you are more content working with your ideals, rather than dollars and cents.

    The positive aspect of the number 11 expression is an always idealistic attitude. Your thinking is long term, and you are able to grasp the far-reaching effects of actions and plans. You are disappointed by the shortsighted views of many of your contemporaries. You are deeply concerned and supportive of art, music, or of beauty in any form.

    The negative attitudes associated with the number 11 expression include a continuous sense of nervous tension; you may be too sensitive and temperamental. You tend to dream a lot and may be more of a dreamer than a doer. Fantasy and reality sometimes become intermingled and you are sometimes very impractical. You tend to want to spread the illumination of your knowledge to others irrespective of their desire or need.
    I'm a skeptic, and like to do this kinda stuff for fun, but they used the words "idealistic", and "dreamer" one too many times for me to completely ignore. The description is almost me entirely. I put in other people's names just to see if I could relate as well, and I can't. What number are you talking about though?

    My number is 11
    Soul urge is 4
    Dream number is 7: An Inner Dream number of 7 means:
    You dream of having the opportunity to read, study, and shut yourself off from worldly distractions. You can see yourself as a teacher, mystic, or ecclesiastic, spending your life in the pursuit of knowledge and learning.<-----That's kinda similar to what you said about 7s and the pursuit of knowledge, but I don't know if that's the number you're talking about.


    I used this website:What Your Name Means (Numerology)

    I also used my full name:
    There are 35 letters in your name.
    Those 35 letters total to 173
    There are 12 vowels and 23 consonants in your name

    I always thought my Lifepath number was 8.
    There is a thinking stuff from which all things are made, and which, in its original state, permeates, penetrates, and fills the interspaces of the universe.

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    Oooh...cool...we're sharing numbers. I want in.

    Lifepath Number is 11
    Destiny Number is 4
    Soul Urge Number is 11
    Inner Dream Number is 2

    I'm an Enneagram 4w5

    I've always taken both Numerology and the Enneagram as fun things to dabble in. So is MBTI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky is BLUE! View Post
    Oooh...cool...we're sharing numbers. I want in.

    Lifepath Number is 11
    Destiny Number is 4
    Soul Urge Number is 11
    Inner Dream Number is 2

    I'm an Enneagram 4w5

    I've always taken both Numerology and the Enneagram as fun things to dabble in. So is MBTI.
    How do I find out what my numbers are? Where is a good place to start with numerology?
    () 9w8-4w3-7w6 tritype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackCat View Post
    How do I find out what my numbers are? Where is a good place to start with numerology?
    Well, I just found this place - Numerology at Astrology-Numerology.com

    Gets you started anyway.

    And EnFpFer already provided the name calculator - What Your Name Means (Numerology)

    Here's the Birthday Calculator as well - Birthday Calculator

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