You've got that problem, too?
I am an ENTJ. Yet, I have a hard time seeing how ENTJs fit in with all but the INTJs.
A four-type group that i'd be able to identify with would consist of:
In short: NJs.
Re-making it would actually give more symmetry in the MBTI landscape.
Another idea. These types seem to have more in common than they do with at least half of those in their own temperament:
I'm having a hard time pinpointing exactly what I am trying to express here.
I'm not trying to alienate anyone... Just stating that the current temperaments seem a little off. For example... The ENTP and the ENTJ share three preferences, but when looking at behavior... Big, huge difference.
Yes, both are extroverted. Yes, both are intuitive. Yes, both are thinkers...
But that J/P divide is seriously a big thing. It makes P's do what P's do, and J's do something useful (hehe).
I think the "Idealists" and "Rationals" thing is a sham, to be honest.
It's all got to do with what people go about doing and how they do it, why they do it.
NJs, for example... We do what needs to be done, and most things we do have a reason behind it. Sure we can do silly things, too, but common sense is almost as strong as in the SJ-department, even if we approach things a bit differently.
NPs on the other hand... You're plain crazy
That can be good, but it's very frustrating when we can't depend on you without holding you at gunpoint. You're even worse than the SPs, because you're not as conventional, and nothing you do has a foundation in common sense, rules/law, tradition or even logic.
What I am saying is that while how different Js might have different methods to arrive at what is often the same point.
P's doesn't really know the meaning of "point" They don't want what the J's want at all most of the time, even if they'd probably be able to understand the J's reasoning if they think somewhat alike sometimes, if they accidentally managed to agree on something instead of acting like mules with either a lack of interpersonal skills or emotional problems, on crack and whiskey.
And yes, I am aware that I am biased and overly critical.
It's not super-serious. But NPs really do tick me off enormously sometimes.
Besides all that...
Does anyone agree that the NJ, SJ, NP, SP order?