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Old 09-18-2007, 11:05 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Actually, a four is supposed to have either a three or five wing. So technically, it is impossible. Although like Uberfuhrer said, 4 does have a line (direction of integration) to 1, so they could resemble each other. The 7 doesn't make sense, though. Well, actually, you might be an unhealthy 1 who's disintegrated to 4, and trying to integrate towards 7. You don't seem to be showing any appropriate wing types, though.
Well u are right about being unhealthy, altho I would not be able to say in which way, exactly. Trying my best. I have used to scoring as 7 when healthy.
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Although like Uberfuhrer said, 4 does have a line (direction of integration) to 1, so they could resemble each other. The 7 doesn't make sense, though. Well, actually, you might be an unhealthy 1 who's disintegrated to 4, and trying to integrate towards 7. You don't seem to be showing any appropriate wing types, though.
I don't really understand the healthy/unhealthy integrate/disintegrate enneagram flow.

Is there any connection between testing 4, 9, 2, and 6 at various times?
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I don't really understand the healthy/unhealthy integrate/disintegrate enneagram flow.

Is there any connection between testing 4, 9, 2, and 6 at various times?
How the Enneagram Personality System Works

Hmm... an unhealthy 4 disintegrates in the direction of 2, but a healthy 2 moves to 4. A stressed 9 disintegrates to 6, but a healthy 6 integrates to 9. Again, no clear wing, but this means you could be:

An unhealthy 4 moving to 2.

A healthy 2 moving to 4.

An unhealthy 9 moving to 6.

A healthy 6 moving to 9.
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I'm 1/2 4w5 and 1/2 9 with no wing.


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How the Enneagram Personality System Works

Hmm... an unhealthy 4 disintegrates in the direction of 2, but a healthy 2 moves to 4. A stressed 9 disintegrates to 6, but a healthy 6 integrates to 9. Again, no clear wing, but this means you could be:

An unhealthy 4 moving to 2.

A healthy 2 moving to 4.

An unhealthy 9 moving to 6.

A healthy 6 moving to 9.
Thank you.

I have a strong sense I'm probably an unhealthy 4 moving to 2. Disintegration, I believe.
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I'm 1/2 4w5 and 1/2 9 with no wing.
Can you please explain how that's possible in the enneagram system? What interpretation of the system are you using, and how do you explain your reasoning? That doesn't fit with my understanding and research. There is no connection between 4w5 and 9. It isn't there.
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ok you've offically confused me. explain to me in common logic how to interpret what you've just said, because its just not being understood via my brain. (said in the , "i have no idea" tone)
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ok you've offically confused me. explain to me in common logic how to interpret what you've just said, because its just not being understood via my brain. (said in the , "i have no idea" tone)
Sorry, I've been spending too much time around INTx's. I think this site explains it best: How the Enneagram Personality System Works

But here's my understanding:

Okay, the Enneagram is a complex 9 archetype system. You have one core type which is the basis of your personality. Each type also has "wings," which add another dimension to your personality. Your wing must be one of the numbers adjacent to your core type. A 4 can have either a 3 or a 5 wing. A 2 can have either a 1 or a 3 wing.

Another part of the theory is integration/disintegration. Under stress, a type can "disintegerate" and behave like another type. The direction of disintegration is:

1-4-2-8-5-7-1

9-6-3-9

This means that a 1 under stress acts like a 4, a 4 under stress acts like a 2, and so on. Note that 9,6, and 3 have their own continuum on this scale that operates the same way. A 9 under stress acts like a 6, a 6 under stress acts like a 3, and so on.

The direction of integration is the direction in which a type grows toward healthier behaviors. It's the opposite of the direction of disintegration.

1-7-5-8-2-4-1

9-3-6-9

This means that a healthy 1 will begin to act more like a 7, a healthy 7 will begin to act more like a 5, and so on.
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oh ok, i get you now
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Lets see:
Type 1 Perfectionism |||||| 22%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||| 34%
Type 3 Image Focus |||||| 22%
Type 4 Hypersensitivity |||||||||||| 42%
Type 5 Detachment |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Type 6 Anxiety |||| 18%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||||||| 70%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||||||| 90%

Ehh can someone tell me what to make of this?
Am I a 5 or a 9 and do I have wings etc?
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