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    Senior Member Mal12345's Avatar
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    A 3w4 is a complex, conflicted type, and you're definitely that one. Unfortunately, as far as the MBTI is concerned, you haven't really addressed any of those personality traits in your description. You imply that you're ambiverted, but typically a person is going to swing one way or the other most of the time, either toward E or I. You seem to describe yourself as mostly a Judger. There is a hint of future orientation, which could be intuition. T and F are hard to distinguish in your description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venom View Post
    i think those correlations are bullshit. here is a much better sight on MBTI correlating with enneagram:
    Zone Issue Prototypical
    MBTI Pair The Preference Orders
    for the Members of
    the Prototypical Pair
    8 Inferior introverted feeling E(N/S)TJ T-N-S-F & T-S-N-F
    2 Inferior introverted thinking E(N/S)FJ F-N-S-T & F-S-N-T
    3 Inferior introverted intuition ES(T/F)P S-T-F-N & S-F-T-N
    7 Inferior introverted sensing EN(T/F)P N-T-F-S & N-F-T-S
    5 Inferior extraverted feeling I(N/S)TP T-N-S-F & T-S-N-F
    9 Inferior extraverted thinking I(N/S)FP F-N-S-T & F-S-N-T
    6 Inferior extraverted intuition IS(T/F)J S-T-F-N & S-F-T-N
    4 Inferior extraverted sensing IN(T/F)J N-T-F-S & N-F-T-S

    Isn't easier to just say:
    2: Fe
    3: Se
    4: Ni
    5: Ti
    6: Si
    7: Ne
    8: Te
    9: Fi

    An inferior function presumes the opposite dominant. Right?

    The only thing I don't like so much is that they associate type 4 with Ni. I associate it with Fi.

    Also, why is type 1 not represented?

    Lastly: what the heck is the enneagram theory based on? Why 9 types. Couldn't it be 8 or 10? I really don't think there is a lot of basis for this theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    Isn't easier to just say:
    2: Fe
    3: Se
    4: Ni
    5: Ti
    6: Si
    7: Ne
    8: Te
    9: Fi
    Yes, but not only is it wrong to create strict correlations, it omits the influence of the wing.

    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    An inferior function presumes the opposite dominant. Right?

    The only thing I don't like so much is that they associate type 4 with Ni. I associate it with Fi.

    Also, why is type 1 not represented?

    Lastly: what the heck is the enneagram theory based on? Why 9 types. Couldn't it be 8 or 10? I really don't think there is a lot of basis for this theory.
    The Enneagram is based in the mystical/metaphysical theories of G.I. Gurdjieff/P.D. Ouspensky, Oscar Ichazo, and Claudio Naranjo. The latter theorists systematized the basic structure of Gurdjieff's ideas.

    The theory that results is based on Gurdjieff's teaching that there are three traditional methods of inner development: those of the Monk, the Fakir, and the Yogi. The fourth method, or Fourth Way, is self-development across all three, while at the same time going about your normal life without the necessity of withdrawing from the world, as with the other three methods.

    The Way of the Monk corresponds to the Feeling triad (2/3/4); the Way of the Fakir corresponds to the Moving triad (8/9/1); The Way of the Yogi corresponds to the Thinking triad (5/6/7).
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Way
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    @Mal+ thanks. will check out.

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    I've noticed INFJs fit snuggly into every E-type except 8

    1 - The liberal/social activist

    2 - The caretaker

    3 - Ambitious, pragmathic INFJ

    4 - The beautiful, passionate INFJ

    5 - The intellectual INFJ

    6 - The cynical INFJ

    7 - Playful INFJ

    9 - The altruistic monk

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