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    Maybe MBTI is how you think while enneagram is what you think?

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    In simple terms, the MBTI shows how we habitually orient to inner and outer reality; whilst the Enneagram shines a light on our habitual behaviours and the reasons behind them.
    INFJ 9w1 sx/sp/so

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    I'm a Type 5 ISTJ.

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    I recommend this site for further reading on the subject.

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    I would think a likely parallel would be made of the Keirseyan temperaments to Self-Preservation, and Interaction Styles (E/I + S + T/F; E/I + N + J/P) to Social. (And maybe Sexual as well).
    Problem is, it seems none of the Enneagram theories allow for stacking of different types according to variant. If they did, then maybe it would help those who seem to be moore than one type, and suggest non-consecutive wings.
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    What seems to happen when you draw Enneagrams across different types is that the characteristics stay the same, but the nuances in how they express themselves and underlying mental processes differ. It's fascinating to me.

    Example: E9s can lose their personal identity to other people. This seems to be a consistent occurrence for those in the average and unhealthy levels of the enneagram. INFPs are vulnerable to this when someone's values are different than our own, and we supplicate some of our values in order to avoid conflict and maintain peace. INFJs can lose their identity to a particularly mysterious or very dominant individual as Ni/Fe starts poking, prodding, or getting overwhelmed. What can cause me to lose aspects of my identity isn't the same as INFJs, but it still can happen.

    I haven't really explored how INTPs and other types express E9 characteristics - especially the more empathetic aspects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollanaut View Post
    sx/sp.
    What is this a reference of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lemons View Post
    What is this a reference of?

    Those are enneagram instinctual stackings.

    sx = sexual, sp = self-preservation. There is another, so = social.

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    sx - exacerbates E, makes J milder
    sp - exacerbates I, makes J stronger
    so - exacerbates J, makes N milder
    ENTj 7-3-8 sx/sp

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    Being an INTP 9 I've always seen the impact of that 9 on my type, well always as in since I figured it out after having the test results etc but also retroactively seeing the sense it makes.

    To me I figure the "stacking" is that I'm in essence a 9, INTP is how I work. So I guess the craftsman is the 9 and the tool box is the INTP bit.

    I am however at odds with my father on this one who's dubious at best about the integrity of the enneagram.
    Isn't it time for a colourful metaphor?

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