Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex
This thinking may be conceived either with concrete or with abstract factors, but always at the decisive points it is orientated by subjective data. Hence, it does not lead from concrete experience back again into objective things, but always to the subjective content, External facts are not the aim and origin of this thinking, although the introvert would often like to make it so appear
Where Jung says "external facts" I'm saying "contingent". The fact they don't get anywhere without data does NOT stop them inventing subjective principles that account for data and calling these principles "objective", or free from feeling (and the outside world). Like when they make definitions rather than usage define the meaning of a word.
Sounds entirely reasonable. But patterns of connectedness--and imma just make this up right now--patterns alone don't say INTP until the person starts making theories out of them. INTP connectedness splits hairs. As in: this thing we are interested in could have its origin in this other thing or process, therefore we need some better, more refined principle that excludes or rises above this other influence before we can properly formulate what the first thing was. Or so I imagine the weirdos to think. It's not like they ever know enough to spell their own processes out. Does Snowball demonstrate that kind of thinking? I don't even know because I can't spot it and the INTPs have no idea how to spell it out like real people so pffft, he doesn't.
Given access to a large enough dataset (the very position Snowden seems to be saying he was in), they are capable of seeing patterns of connectedness not only within that data universe, but elsewhere depending on how knowledgeable the INTP in question is. So if Snowden had access to data from Projects A, B, C, and D when others might have only been siloed into one of those projects (and being a former BAH employee myself, can certainly attest to the possibility), he could connect the dots to see a picture that looked a helluva lot like the US government doing massive, unwarranted data pulls on its own citizens.
One suggestion is that he got caught out by culture shock. He may have planned it all out, but then when he finally got to Hong Kong, got famous, and started talking to Hong Kong lawyers, their approach to his security scared him. Apparently Hong Kong lawyer culture is very different from American lawyer culture. In HK they tell you everything that can go wrong. They try to scare you. And then everything usually turns out okay. Or so I read someone say.
Again, I'm assuming that anyone that was planning to expose a top secret government program probably planned out how he'd go about it a bit before blowing the thing open. What I'm arguing is that the more tactical focus in his planning on method (e.g., how to extract credible data to provide to the press) rather than strategy (e.g., what long-term political change he meant to effect, and how to ensure the actualization of that aim) says that he was probably a TP rather than a TJ. Obviously, no one is gonna seek asylum if they're just living their lives, but a guy planning to do what he did had beyond compelling reasons to get his ducks in a row. And with the information he had, he had the leverage to make people in high places listen to what he had to say. Even lacking access initially, an NTJ would have seen the necessity of creating that opportunity as just basic due diligence.
So he made a dumb white guy mistake while trying to walk an international political high wire.... or maybe there was some other reason for leaving so soon. Dunno.
I don't know enough about world politics, but is there any other location he could have come out of the closet and still been able to sit pretty? What other location offers any kind of balance to US interests but doesn't also put him right in the hands of foreign powers? I dunno. Maybe there was a better place to go.
If Snowden had wanted to be a martyr, he wouldn't have fled to Hong Kong. Hong Kong in particular is the kind of half-cocked shit that I could except from some technically brilliant, but politically less than astute INTP, but would never buy from an equally brilliant INTJ. At least not at face value.