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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    .. I don't think there's anything wrong with giving a man a tool to be confident in himself..
    I totally agree.

    (btw the funniest counter argument I've heard is some of the PUA behavior is supposed to only work with women who are '10s' as these are the women men fall all over themselves for. Therefore if it doesn't work for you as a woman you mustn't be a '10', LOL.)

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    What!?! That's got to be the most generalized argument ever made.! Lol-worthy, for sure.
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    haha srsly, what can you say back to that!

    Ultimately I do think each to their own, but I am creeped out by some of the PUA gurus cos at some point I think they are preying on vulnerable men with this stuff. And they're introducing another level of BS to cut through in the dating world... lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sanveane View Post
    haha srsly, what can you say back to that!

    Ultimately I do think each to their own, but I am creeped out by some of the PUA gurus cos at some point I think they are preying on vulnerable women with this stuff. And they're introducing another level of BS to cut through in the dating world... lol.
    Fixed.

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    ^Of course. I wanted to mention a lesser explored angle... I have quite a lot of sympathy for the less confident men who fall prey to this stuff too, (no, not the willing manipulators).

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    ^ Fuck 'em!
    Worms that turn need to be gobbled up.

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    ^hehe, I think this is called the T/F divide, lol!

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    ^ more like the bitter/sweet divide.

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    Well, in F support.. I can understand the lack of confidence.. empathizing with it, I realize that I feel terrible for the good guy that loses out to the bad boy with a rebel-streak in him to the stereotypical woman.

    .. but I also realize that eventually, they need to realize enough is enough and if they really care for a woman they'll stand up and attempt to make themselves known to her. Because the sad reality is, if you don't try, you can't succeed or fail.
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    how can a guy seem confident through tears of self-loathing?


    how can you follow a book that says you need to be self confident... nothing paradoxical about that. it should say "you are a loser for buying this"

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