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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    because they're so opaque that definite meaning is difficult to extract from them.
    what do you think they mean?

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    Every time I try to pick it up like falling sand
    As fast as I pick it up it runs away from my clutching hands

    There's nothing else I can really do
    There's nothing else I can really do at all

    - The Cure, "A Letter to Elise"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    what do you think they mean?
    I don't think that they mean any one thing. And if you're asking for my personal interpretation, I'm sorry to disappoint but I don't have one. What makes them so appealing to me is simply the fact that they have such flexible meaning. And also because I find the contrast of words to be stimulating.
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    I'm not generally someone who pays attention to lyrics in the music I listen to. Still, this particular song stays with me and hits me in the gut because I see myself in it.

    She was sixteen and six feet tall
    In a crowd of teenagers comin' out of the zoo
    She stumbled started to slip and fall
    Teeter-tottered on the top of patent leather shoes
    I happened to catch her and said,
    "maybe these ruby shoes are a little cumbersome for you"

    Maybe for you, now

    But not as shaky as I must have seemed
    Talkin' junk through her giggle, little teenage dream
    And on the phone I could not compete
    My dumb-love fake competence was getting weak
    For a sec' I thought I sounded sweet
    But sure 'nough in a gruff, faint voice
    I heard myself speak

    [Chorus:]
    I could stay a while
    But sooner or later I'll break your smile
    And I can tell a joke
    But one of these days I'm bound to choke
    And we could share a kiss
    But I feel like I can't go through with this
    And I bet we could build a home
    But I know the right thing for me to do
    Is to leave you alone

    Leave you alone, now

    I'm beginning to like you
    So you probably won't get what I'm going to do
    I'm walkin' away from you
    It probably don't make much sense to you
    But I'm trying to save you
    From all of the things that I'll probably say or do

    I'll probably do

    [Chorus:]
    I could stay a while
    But sooner or later I'll break your smile
    And I can tell a joke
    But one of these days I'm bound to choke
    And we might share a kiss
    But I feel like a can't go through with this
    And I bet we could build a home
    But I know the right thing for me to do
    Is to leave you alone

    Leave you alone, now

    You'll probably call me a fool
    And say I'm doin' exactly what a coward would do
    And I'm beginning to like you
    It's a shame what a lame way to live
    But what can I do?
    I hope you appreciate what I do

    I'm a martyr for my love for you
    A martyr for my love for you, now
    A martyr for my love for you
    A martyr for my love for you
    Everybody have fun tonight. Everybody Wang Chung tonight.

    Johari
    /Nohari

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    I don't think that they mean any one thing. And if you're asking for my personal interpretation, I'm sorry to disappoint but I don't have one. What makes them so appealing to me is simply the fact that they have such flexible meaning. And also because I find the contrast of words to be stimulating.
    gotcha. and i'm sure the counting is awesome too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I'm not generally someone who pays attention to lyrics in the music I listen to. Still, this particular song stays with me and hits me in the gut because I see myself in it.
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    Really? You don't pay attention to the lyrics? They're just as musical as the music.

    I've always had respect for the stripes.

    What's he doing in this song, though? He likes her and yet he's peacing. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    gotcha. and i'm sure the counting is awesome too.
    The counting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Really? You don't pay attention to the lyrics? They're just as musical as the music.

    I've always had respect for the stripes.

    What's he doing in this song, though? He likes her and yet he's peacing. Why?
    I agree that lyrics are just as musical as the music. But I hear the voice as just another instrument unless the lyrics really speak to me. There's lots of music I love that I could never enjoy if I actually listened to what the lyrics mean.

    And he does like her, which is why he doesn't want to do her wrong in the end. The narrator has a habit of bailing out of relationships when he has a crisis of confidence. And he wants to save this girl the hurt that is coming to her down the line by getting out before anyone is too invested. I admit that my reading of the lyrics is colored by the fact that I do this exact same thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I agree that lyrics are just as musical as the music. But I hear the voice as just another instrument unless the lyrics really speak to me. There's lots of music I love that I could never enjoy if I actually listened to what the lyrics mean.

    And he does like her, which is why he doesn't want to do her wrong in the end. The narrator has a habit of bailing out of relationships when he has a crisis of confidence. And he wants to save this girl the hurt that is coming to her down the line by getting out before anyone is too invested. I admit that my reading of the lyrics is colored by the fact that I do this exact same thing
    Yeah, sometimes the lyrics can kill a song that's really strong musically (if you choose to interpret them).
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    I like vocals, but the confines created by language and especially rhyming is limiting musically.

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