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    oh great i hope he likes it, otherwise i will have a target on my back lol
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    While it didn't have that certain something that would have made it one of my all time favorite movies, that something has absolutely nothing to do with quality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Totenkindly View Post
    It looks pretty amazing in 3D on the big screen. The soundtrack is really more about buttressing the emotional moodiness of the film. There are scenes between K and Joi that are just beautiful and painful. I think Leto has less screen time than Ford, maybe, if you tallied it all; Ford is great. Probably the weakest character is Robin Wright's -- she's a great actress, it's just her character doesn't have much through-line, she acts more like a plot point and/or motivator.
    I appreciated that the soundtrack played it really subtle - not making like it had aspirations of occupying the same space as the original (yeah, I was excited about a Vangelis return after listening to this from last year, especially this track, which would have been very very happy over some cyberpunk end credits), but just doing its job well. Leto's character didn't really fit in, I felt, but then he was surprisingly in the background of the more intimate plotlines - the clear important ones.

    The spoiler button here contains a link to an article that explains a lot of points of the film. It's worth reading after you see the movie, but not before, because it is laden (almost immediately) with spoilers.

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    I just got back from watching Blade Runner 2049. I sat in critical complacency as I allowed this movie to wash over me like that waves that almost took out poor Harrison. It took a little thinking to sort out and then piece together the impressionistic landscape on display before me.

    My first thought is that this movie does not deserve 8.1 metacritic stars. I would give it 8.1 stars for effort. But this movie just didn't have the organic feel of the original Blade Runner. I also miss Rutger Hauer who brought the original to life, ironically enough for a created being. The star of Blade Runner 2049 looks like a little lost puppy dog. He is sad-looking because something is missing in his past. But he is not sad in reality, he is angry, hiding it behind a stoic mask.

    There are no good guys or bad guys in this movie. There are just angry people, each with the same stoic self-presentation. Speaking in riddles also helps them avoid playing their subconscious "cards" on the table. If you are a super-realistic person you will hate this movie, because every conversation begins with some irrelevant reference. I mean, every single one of them, a formula played out by every person in the Blade Runner universe. They can't just cut to the chase right away. I'm surprised none of them brought up their bowel movements before attempting to disembowel their opponent with the omnipresent evil-looking blade everybody seems to carry in the future.

    I realize that the person who made this person knows very well how to create a cinematic masterpiece. It was the writing that, unfortunately, brought down Blade Runner 2049.
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    I found a critic who kind of agrees with me (that's important too, ya know?):
    Blade Runner 2049 Review: A Visual Stunner | Time.com

    ..."But even if Blade Runner 2049 never forgets where it came from, it somehow keeps losing its way. The picture’s moodiness is excessively manicured; this thing is gritty only in a premeditated way. Mostly, it feels like a capacious handbag, designed with perhaps too many extra compartments to hold every cool visual idea Villeneuve can dream up. This picture is even more ambitious than Villeneuve's last, the 2016 sci-fi parable Arrival.
    That's not to say there aren't some inspired touches: The best of them is a retro-modern jukebox that looks like one of those old Victorian glass bells with a mechanical bird tootling inside, though the bird in this one is a mini hologram of one of the great singers of the 20th century. His crooning is a like the signal from ghost ship, calling through the years as if they were waves. Old movies send out those types of signals, too. Our job, when watching a sequel, is to sort-of remember and sort-of forget what came before. Blade Runner 2049 doesn't make us sort-of forget enough."

    I added the bold text to make a point. And that is, the movie is visually stunning and contains some interesting back-scenery, but it lacks meat. It's like a Corvette which, unfortunately, has a four-banger installed under the hood (a Corvette normally has a V8 under the hood).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Video View Post
    I appreciated that the soundtrack played it really subtle - not making like it had aspirations of occupying the same space as the original (yeah, I was excited about a Vangelis return after listening to this from last year, especially this track, which would have been very very happy over some cyberpunk end credits), but just doing its job well. Leto's character didn't really fit in, I felt, but then he was surprisingly in the background of the more intimate plotlines - the clear important ones.
    That was rather interesting -- like, some of the characters showing up more in the trailer didn't really have as much play in the actual movie. (I won't say which as to not spoiler it.... just interesting.)


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    I had a hard time staying awake during this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Video View Post
    All right, I'll take your word for it and buy that ticket for tonight.
    Your reviewer used a non-word: "Vagueity." I don't know why someone would want to make up a word when a word for it already exists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Your reviewer used a non-word: "Vagueity." I don't know why someone would want to make up a word when a word for it already exists.
    For fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Video View Post
    For fun.
    There is always that ISFP penchant for playing with words that I need to consider. My ISFP wife plays with words all the time.
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    Those damn ISFPs, always playing with vaguosity.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

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