User Tag List

First 23456 Last

Results 31 to 40 of 51

  1. #31

    Default

    So I guess with the positive reception it's getting this means Nick Meyer's series will be put on the back burner.

  2. #32
    @.~*virinaĉo*~.@ Totenkindly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    MBTI
    FREE
    Enneagram
    594 sx/sp
    Socionics
    LII Ne
    Posts
    42,338

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic Fiend View Post
    Subscription based programs will always be more pirated then not. I was good and didn't pirate them this time.

    There is no visual indicator on this era's uniform to differentiate between tactical, engineering, and science officers. It's no wonder that concussed crew member walked into the brig when looking for medical staff; Everyone was wearing the same damn thing!

    This probably makes Micheals a better character but man think about this, The three main characters who pissed on the prime directive the most notably were a black man (Sisko) a woman (Janaway) and now a Black Woman (Micheals).

    Micheals really does however thanks to framing and strong story telling, even though her intentions were good, as the one who handled this in the wrong way. She's not some unsung hero.
    She was on the ship for 7 years, the same length of time and seasons for TNG, DS9, and Voy. Imagine you getting attached to this crew for seven years, and them seeing and expieriencing all the wonders space has to offer, all the diplomacy and intrapersonal drama, and the final season of that show ends with the first officer causing the death of the captain and the destrucation of the title ship and the show ends on that note.

    That's what these two first episodes of discovery showed me.
    That's not what actually happened, from what I could tell.

    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

    “Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft

  3. #33
    Senior Member Atomic Fiend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    MBTI
    ESTP
    Enneagram
    873 sx/so
    Socionics
    SLE Ti
    Posts
    7,060

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Totenkindly View Post
    That's not what actually happened, from what I could tell.

    So she had the right idea, but implemented it in a way that only got her further in trouble with the Starfleet tribunal, and then was punished even though the loss of Starfleet ships was actually the result of regulation practices and incorrect decisions on the part of the commanders of various vessels. The Admiral's death (and the destruction of his ship) was a mistake on his part, although he followed Starfleet's ideals.
    Well yeah. That's what I was saying. In less words.

  4. #34
    Senior Member tinker683's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    MBTI
    ISFJ
    Enneagram
    9w1 sx/sp
    Posts
    2,656

    Default

    I'm actually OK with it. I get that they're trying to re-imagine Klingons so I'm waiting to see how it plays out. As I was watching the Klingons speak, I was wondering if their were any Simpsons-Comic-book-Guys-ST-Fans who actually knew Klingon who could confirm or deny if they were genuinely speaking the language or just making shit up.
    "The man who is swimming against the stream knows the strength of it."
    ― Woodrow Wilson

  5. #35
    @.~*virinaĉo*~.@ Totenkindly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    MBTI
    FREE
    Enneagram
    594 sx/sp
    Socionics
    LII Ne
    Posts
    42,338

    Default

    watched episode 3.

    This is a decent series. It's still episodic but not as contrived feeling as I remember from Voyager. (I never watched Enterprise.) The characters are allowed to be complex and multi-faceted. I like how everyone's both awed and terrified and sometimes even disdainful of Burnham, and she gets a lot of smackdown throughout the episode. Damn. Glad they cast Jason Isaacs in this too -- he's a great actor and he brings intelligence, backbone, and a bit of mystique to Captain Gabriel Lorca.

    They are doing the right thing and really focusing on the interactions between the various characters, rather than focusing on silly scifi dialogue. Yes, that still happens; but it doesn't feel as fluffy, and if there is stuff discussed, it's generally got a bearing on the human element. Lorca's pitch to Burnham is spot on, he did read her right. But I love that maybe while he does have vision and benevolence in some ways, he might have a darker side... or maybe it's just a pragmatic one.

    It's also visually grittier. There's some physical stuff here (in terms of bodies and such) that is pretty harrowing. This is not prettied-up Trek. Also solved the away team issue by having a lead who is not an officer.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

    “Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft
    Likes Atomic Fiend liked this post

  6. #36
    Senior Member riva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    MBTI
    estp
    Enneagram
    7w8
    Posts
    2,052

    Default

    Okay I watched all three episodes. I hate to say this but I didn't enjoy it. I was forcing myself to go through them. That's never a good sign.

    A few reasons as to why I didn't enjoy them:

    (1) TNG version of Star Trek was my favourite to the 1 max 2 episodes story arcs - although I believe ds99 was the best written when it comes to story arcs and character building - and I was expecting this series to go back to those roots especially since ST Enterprise had a similar ONE-LONG arc and it failed.

    People don't want to watch a whole series to have a good ending, it's better if it's given 1 or 2 episodes at a time. It's okay to have a reaccuring antagonist. TNG had the Romulans and then the Borg.

    (2) It looks too tensed. Too tensed to sit back and enjoy it. Was too rushed too.

    (3) Fucking tired of seeing the Kligons making macho die-for-honour talk. To make things worse unlike in DS9 these Kligons didn't seem to have a thirst for life. They look bored and dead inside. It's like seeing Daniel Craig playing James Bond. He's a great actor, probably the most qualified actor who played Bond but man he takes the fun out of Bond.

    (4) I can't help but compare it to The Orville - and I hate to say this - which I feel nails the old Generation Star Trek more so than this series. I believe Nostalgia is a reason why people keep coming back for it, but Discovery offers none of that.

    (5) What's up with the shitty theme song?
    .

  7. #37
    Senior Member riva's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    MBTI
    estp
    Enneagram
    7w8
    Posts
    2,052

    Default

    I am hoping they would learn from Enterprise's last season and focus more on shorter story arcs. Like I said it's okay - infact smart - to have have a reoccurring villain but when the reoccurring villain is the villain in all the fucking episodes it sucks.
    .

  8. #38
    Senior Member Mal12345's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    MBTI
    IxTP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sx/sp
    Socionics
    LII Ti
    Posts
    13,871

    Default

    I watched all three episodes of ST. I saw a genetically created super-being that reminded me of Alien, and a fortune cookie that doubled as a red pill/blue pill offer. And a captain who has perhaps gone renegade, I'm not sure yet, and is faced with making many black-and-white decisions.

    I saw laser weapons that aren't nearly as destructive as phasers. I'm hoping phasers make a comeback. I don't care for disruptors very much. Phasers are cool weapons.

    Many youngsters are surprised about a female being named "Michael," probably because they are too young to know about the actress Michael Learned who played in the hit TV show in the 1970s to early '80s called The Waltons.
    "If you try to build something that is idiot-proof, the universe will build a better idiot."
    I'm an extrovert trapped within an introverted soul.
    Likes riva liked this post

  9. #39
    Senior Member Mal12345's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    MBTI
    IxTP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sx/sp
    Socionics
    LII Ti
    Posts
    13,871

    Default

    I'm watching episode 4 right now. Just as I suspected, the captain wants to weaponize the alien beast, and ripping off the Alien franchise.
    "If you try to build something that is idiot-proof, the universe will build a better idiot."
    I'm an extrovert trapped within an introverted soul.

  10. #40
    Senior Member Atomic Fiend's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    MBTI
    ESTP
    Enneagram
    873 sx/so
    Socionics
    SLE Ti
    Posts
    7,060

    Default

    The Aliens films invented weaponizing a species? A more modern advent then I previously thought.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO