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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    .... I do have songs I'm familiar with or like, for instance 'Flower Duet' (and no, I did not hear it for the first time on an airline commercial! LOL)
    Haha, sadly I did.


    Some sopranos just sound painful and almost like they're strangling their vocal cords when they sing.
    Have you heard Maria Guleghina when she pushes her voice? (clips on youtube) Urgh.


    And I've taken a few operatic singing lessons and some voice lessons in the 'bel canto' tradition.
    Would love to hear ya. You have any clips online? Feel free to PM them to me if you do.


    Especially operatic singing it's so much about breath and diaphraghm (sp?) work, I was amazed at the LOUD sounds coming from me and I always thought I was going to pass out.
    If you master your breath support, you're more than halfway there. I've given up on trying to do that for now. When the urge to sing hits me, I just open my mouth and scream out the aria. Have you heard a bass-baritone attempting to sing The Bell Song?

    Not a pretty sight.

    YouTube - Sumi Jo - Donizetti - Lucia di Lammermoor - Mad Scene (I also saw that clip where Karajan auditioned her when she new on the scene. Sweet!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo_(operalover) View Post
    WhichMagic Flute movie did you see? Is it the recent 2006 one?
    I saw the Ingmar Bergman version from 1975.

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    Btw, you probably know this but a lot the Amadeus movie had quite a bit of fiction in it (e.g. Salieri and Mozart's relationship). Hollywood. :rolli: But it was definitely entertaining to watch.
    Yeah, I am very well aware of it... Still love the movie though. I don't think it's important it's not historically correct. The movie isn't even about Mozart, I think it's rather about genius... I see the movie rather as loosely based on Mozart, and full of myths, in order to tell what the director wants to say or discuss when it comes to genius... That's how I choose to watch the movie, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo_(operalover) View Post
    What's:

    1. Your favourite opera
    2. Your favourite composer
    3. Your favourite artists

    Or you could answer just one of the above. I love comparing my favourites with other aficionados!
    1. Massenet's Werther
    2. Dmitri Shostakovich
    3. Not too knowledgeable here, but Marian Anderson (she's a mutant...), Pavarotti (omg, surprise!), and Joan Sutherland. I HATE Andrea Boccelli.

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    Great taste! I didn't mean this post to be too esoteric so perhaps you could tell me in your own terms which particular operas you liked.
    Carmen was my childhood favorite, which I discovered incidentally through the Dorothy Dandridge/Harry Belafonte movie (Carmen Jones) based on the opera. The actual opera was better than the movie. Then I heard an excerpt from Mascagni's Cavalleria Rusticana in a movie for a class on Italian Americana, and started listening again. Now, I'd say La bohme is a contender for favorite.
    Salome rocks my socks off!
    I saw a not-so-great production of this in Berlin. Was not pleased. Maybe I'll give it another listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoenix13 View Post
    1. Massenet's Werther
    2. Dmitri Shostakovich
    3. Not too knowledgeable here, but Marian Anderson (she's a mutant...), Pavarotti (omg, surprise!), and Joan Sutherland.
    Ha! I was just watching a fantastic Pav/Sutherland duet from Lucia di Lammermoor.


    I HATE Andrea Boccelli.
    Marry me.


    Quote Originally Posted by IF3157 View Post
    Carmen was my childhood favorite, which I discovered incidentally through the Dorothy Dandridge/Harry Belafonte movie (Carmen Jones) based on the opera. The actual opera was better than the movie. Then I heard an excerpt from Mascagni's Cavalleria Rusticana in a movie for a class on Italian Americana, and started listening again. Now, I'd say La bohme is a contender for favorite.
    I do think che galida malina... si, mi chiamano mimi have to be two of the most romantic and beautiful (in their simplicity) arias in the world.

    YouTube - Jussi Bjorling-Renata Tebaldi-"La Boheme" from Puccini-Part1

    (my favourite interpretation evah. the singing starts at 00:46)


    I saw a not-so-great production of this in Berlin. Was not pleased. Maybe I'll give it another listen.
    Let me guess; the soprano had a small voice?

    Salome has dense orchestration and you need a true-blue Dramatic Soprano to be able to be heard clearly over such a large orchestra. I mean, I don't want to hear a Dramatic Soprano rampaging like an elephant through the delicate textures of an opera like La Boheme but I sure as hell dont want to hear a small voiced Lyric Soprano whose sound is lost in the Wagner and Strauss orchestration.

    The best Salome that ever lived - YouTube - Nilsson Salome

    Nobody bar none has ever sung the final scene like that.

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    1. Die Zauberflote (favorite for the music and the action, keeps my interest)
    2. Mozart (perfection)
    3. Fleming, Pav (I really don't think there is a more perfect Tenor), Florez, Te Kanawa, Hvorostovsky, D'arcangelo, Bartoli, Price, Tebaldi, Sills, Sutherland, Moffo, Latonia Moore, Simionato.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aguanile View Post
    1. Die Zauberflote (favorite for the music and the action, keeps my interest)
    Haha, that's a ring tone on my phone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aguanile View Post
    2. Mozart (perfection)
    I agree.


    3. Fleming, Pav (I really don't think there is a more perfect Tenor), Florez, Te Kanawa, Hvorostovsky, D'arcangelo, Bartoli, Price, Tebaldi, Sills, Sutherland, Moffo, Latonia Moore, Simionato.
    Quite an eclectic list there! Hadn't heard of D'arcangelo before but I've just YouTube'd him and wow, what a beautiful vocal colour. We may just have a successor to Samuel Ramey after all.

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    YouTube - Jussi Bjorling-Renata Tebaldi-"La Boheme" from Puccini-Part1

    (my favourite interpretation evah. the singing starts at 00:46)
    Renata Tebaldi.

    Let me guess; the soprano had a small voice?

    Salome has dense orchestration and you need a true-blue Dramatic Soprano to be able to be heard clearly over such a large orchestra. I mean, I don't want to hear a Dramatic Soprano rampaging like an elephant through the delicate textures of an opera like La Boheme but I sure as hell dont want to hear a small voiced Lyric Soprano whose sound is lost in the Wagner and Strauss orchestration.
    Well, put it this way: it sounded like the orchestra was like a herd of over-loud large elephants that totally drowned out the soprano.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo_(operalover) View Post
    I agree.

    Quite an eclectic list there! Hadn't heard of D'arcangelo before but I've just YouTube'd him and wow, what a beautiful vocal colour. We may just have a successor to Samuel Ramey after all.
    Yes, his voice is glorious and he's not too rough on the eyes either!

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