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    What if I deflect it off on you? I mean, the cosmos might let me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    John Lennon was a self-righteous douchebag.

    Less preaching, more reading. Many of his political attacks lacked merit.
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    Emerson is SO >>>>>>>> Thoreau!

    MORE FISTICUFFS!!
    Emerson wanted to engage the culture more, to live within culture and be a positive force while not letting one's self become taken over by it and Thoreau seemed more to think that this was impossible, that we need to turn our backs on the culture and go inwards to find ourselves.

    Emerson seemed more ENFJ and Thoreau more INFP, just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyJaye View Post
    John Lennon is not my hero or my role model, so I can dislike him as much as I want. There are human foibles that accompany everyone, but I found him very pretentious, preachy and intractable for a guy who had very few and shifting views on life. Not admirable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Night View Post
    John Lennon was a self-righteous douchebag.

    Less preaching, more reading. Many of his political attacks lacked merit.
    Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree here. Really, I can only take Lennon or McCartney as a pair. Individually, I'm not a fan of either one.

    This is a personal one, but if I never hear Imagine again, it will be too soon. Not that it's a bad song, but that people act like it's the be-all, end-all song of the world, and every sucky artist in the universe feels it's their personal duty to cover it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    This is a personal one, but if I never hear Imagine again, it will be too soon. Not that it's a bad song, but that people act like it's the be-all, end-all song of the world, and every sucky artist in the universe feels it's their personal duty to cover it.
    Yes, I agree. I don't like it for the very same reasons.

    "We Are World" ended up that way too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    This is a personal one, but if I never hear Imagine again, it will be too soon. Not that it's a bad song, but that people act like it's the be-all, end-all song of the world, and every sucky artist in the universe feels it's their personal duty to cover it.

    Would it redeem the song for you somehow if someone else sang it? Perhaps, Sally Field?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyJaye View Post
    Would it redeem the song for you somehow if someone else sang it? Perhaps, Sally Field?
    How about a three-way sing-a-long of it by Sally Field, Michelle Pfeiffer and Sally Struthers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart View Post
    Emerson wanted to engage the culture more, to live within culture and be a positive force while not letting one's self become taken over by it and Thoreau seemed more to think that this was impossible, that we need to turn our backs on the culture and go inwards to find ourselves.

    Emerson seemed more ENFJ and Thoreau more INFP, just my opinion.
    I really liked Thoreau's attitude about power, in general. He was completely cynical about authority and all non-voluntary association, so that really speaks to me as someone who feels quite similar (but who, personality-wise, would prefer to be someone within the power structure, but delimiting it). I dig the air of melancholic irascibility.

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    Y'know, I didn't really see a point in posting here, since I generally just ignore things I don't like, and I'm pretty apathetic about who else likes them or how overrated they are. But after reading over the thread, I realized there are, in fact, things that bug me. Yay, pathos.

    (Disclaimer: Everything I say here is ultimately subjective, and I make no claims otherwise.)

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    Commas. Stop teasing me with your complex ways, you vagarious minxes.
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    Raymond's brother was Eeyore written for adults who think like children...
    Okay, I actually like ELR, but that was beautiful.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tallulah View Post
    Also? Sally Field sucks. I hate her little scrunchy face as much as Pink hates Redford.
    Can't really say I'm a fan of Sally, either, but lulah, your insatiably seething contempt for her amuses me immensely. She seems rather innocuous to me. Is there some childhood trauma we should know about?

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    morons, racists, or ignorant.
    Redundant, redundant, redundant (well, okay, there's a subtle difference between 1 and 3, but #2 covers both of those).

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    I wouldn't knock it until you've seen Takahata's best films (Only Yesterday, Grave of The Fireflies).

    The rest I can take or leave (usually leave).

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    I gotta agree with colmena on the anime. It's a medium independent of the content, and it just happens that the majority of the content is either bad or really bad.

    Just like I would say that television sucks, because the majority of what's on does nothing for me. But there are a few things scattered in there that are really good. Likewise for anime.

    And I defy anyone having the slightest glimmer of anything resembling humanity buried somewhere in their soul to watch Grave of the Fireflies without crying. I'm serious.


    Regarding Bollywood stuff, I'm sure I could never sit through the full 2 or 3 hours of a film. But there's something about the particular type of cheesy melodrama, the little romance between the hero and heroine as they invariably dance toward each other, that's charming to me. It's cute.

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    How about video-games?
    Halo and Grand Theft Auto.
    Seconded. Especially GTA and it's cheap path to fame via lame controversial content. I'd also throw in a whole lot of uninspired, derivative first-person shooters. Give people the opportunity for shootin' at folk, and they get instantly stupid and will pay for the same thing, over and over.


    I'd also second:
    KISS. The music itself is almost upbeat and skippy, which just makes them seem silly(er).
    The Beatles. They had a few really good songs, for which the acclaim is appropriate, but then a whole lot of trite, weak numbers. And yeah, they sound more pedestrian today because we've heard so much that's influenced by them, but even in that context, they had a lot of songs that just lacked anything.
    Ayn Rand. A few good seeds of truth there (the basic idea of not compromising who you are to cater to popular opinion and fads), but she's just way too extreme and unbalanced. And not anywhere near as rational as she'd like to believe. And the randroids that follow her are worse.
    LOTR. A gifted writer, I'm sure, but way over-hyped. Admittedly, a lot of this is just my personal taste, since the whole medieval/magic setting just doesn't appeal to me.
    Sex and the City. 'nuff said.
    Screaming death metal. But I think that's a given.
    Dana Carvey movies. Especially Master of Disguise. How do movies like that even happen? But I can't say I was a big fan of Wayne's World, either.
    Most of SNL and Mad TV. There are a handful of really classic things, several so-so things, and than a whole lot of stuff that feels like the cast getting slightly drunk and pretending they're funny while the audience plays along.
    J.K. Rowling. She's fairly imaginative, and the movies can be somewhat entertaining to watch (largely due to a generous effects budget), but the extremity of her success seems strange to me. And there's this weird point-of-pride thing in adults saying how much they like Harry Potter. I don't get it.
    We Are the World. Absolutely. What an incredibly bland, droning song that, hey, must be good because everyone's in it.


    And I'll add, in no particular order:
    Piers Anthony. The guy cranks out a book every three weeks, and apparently has a world full of fans. I tried reading one of these once, and it read like, well, something that had been cranked out in three weeks. Throw in a sprinkling of blatantly gratuitous semi-eroticism, and you you've got yourself a best seller. I made it about a fourth of the way in, and couldn't take any more.
    A lot of (but certainly not all) "classic" literature. Sure, there's been worst stuff since, but there are a lot of awful books that have been granted "classic" status, so we collectively agree that they're great works. And yes, Jane Eyre. Icky.
    18th and 19th century period films that consist of snooty characters wearing really uncomfortable clothing. All the time. Even doing things outside. And everyone always speaks in these carefully measured tones, using painfully elaborate language no matter what the conversation is. They all just seem so constricted and formal, all the time, that my neck and shoulders start to tense up just watching them. And the Scarlet Pimpernel really annoys me. "Is he in heaven? Or is he in hell? That damned elusive Pimpernel" (spoken in a self-important, somewhat effete tone). Then everyone laughs and applauds, like something incredibly clever has been said. Did I miss something?
    Little Man Tate. Only because this was such a beautiful concept for a film, but was so cheesy and contrived in it's execution.
    Star Trek (oh, I'm goin' down now). This show, in all it's various incarnations, is harmless, so I would just ignore it. But as somewhat of a geek, I'm somehow expected to rave about it. And it just does nothing for me. Really flimsy characters who are basically designed to fill some role. And that's all they do. And it's way too predictable and safe. Lacks any semblance of grit or humanity.
    Michael Moore. I don't necessarily disagree with everything he says (but don't necessarily agree with it all, either). But he has such cheap ways of saying it.
    Bill Maher. The pretense of rational discussion, but he just does a lot of forceful reiterating.
    Rush Limbaugh. Don't even know where to start. So I won't.
    80's action cartoons. Cartoons are good because they're funny. These weren't.
    Gas pumps where you set the handle lock thingy so you don't have to keep holding the handle, but the pump nozzle overflow detector is too sensitize, so it keeps shutting off. I hate that.
    Girls Gone Wild videos. No, I don't think anyone is defending those or claiming them as great works, but I just get so sick of so many commercials, over and over, for something so insipid.
    The Grinch movie. Dr. Seuss would be appalled. Actually, Ron Howard, et al, hounded his widow relentlessly until she finally caved and gave the rights. I'm sure she hated herself when she saw the final product.
    Angelina Jolie. I don't get it. Not attractive, just somewhat funny looking to me. And yet she's somehow firmly established as being supremely hot. In any cliche reference needing an "obviously" super-hot woman, it's always Angelina's name that gets plugged in. Somehow, I'm missing the obvious.

    There. I think I'm done now.
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    Gosh Matoon is the best hater!

    The best and tightly phrased justifications for his hate of anyone in this thread.

    I'm in awe at how poorly I hate in comparison and here I thought I was so adept.

    I am really, really into period pieces but I loathe the Scarlet Pimpernel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martoon View Post
    And I defy anyone having the slightest glimmer of anything resembling humanity buried somewhere in their soul to watch Grave of the Fireflies without crying. I'm serious.
    From my favourite reviewer:

    Surely anime's greatest triumph, "...Fireflies" IS nonetheless manipulative, it is not "anti-war" (whatever that means), and I wouldn't call it "depressing" either. It's beyond poignant however; an amazingly beautiful tragedy, woven with maybe the most affecting, poetic animated language ever constructed. When the tragedy comes, questions of fault seem beside the real point; whilst the firefly may die so soon, the images of its glowing will live on til the end of time.
    As many have said, it's anime for those who don't like anime. It's diligently realist, but live-capture could never have been so affecting. As though the facade of animation is required to be able to deal with the subject matter.

    There's also plenty of subtext to ponder over afterwards. I highly recommend getting the special edition DVD as it provides historical context as well as interviews with Takahata and acclaimed critic, Roger Ebert.
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