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    Quote Originally Posted by CzeCze View Post
    I'm sure others have already speculated and even posted articles or quoted studies, but I think the age minimum was more for the protection of children and to stop truly Dickensian methods of exploiting kids to win national pride than to stop any 'unfair advantage' and under 16 year old might have.
    That was my impression as well for the age requirement and I thought that was why people were making a fuss about it.

    I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the professional tennis circuit also has (or had) lower age limits to protect the younger players.
    ...so much smoke pouring out of each chromosome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post

    Nastia won the gold in the all-around competition. She lost the gold to He Kexin on the balance beam (?), which is what we are discussing here... due to the way the tie-breaker was settled. (But like others say, yes, the rules were agreed on up-front, so... meh.)

    I didn't examine everything she said, but N seemed pretty classy overall in her reactions to things. And she won the all-around gold, so that probably helped salve things a bit.
    my bad... didn't realize the universe of discourse.... but regardless... Nastia (sounds like a good pornstar name) can hold her head up high...

    Of course, the humane concerns end up overriding this... but it would still be interesting to see what Nastia actually thought about He.... if Nastia's really a sportswoman at heart, she probably feels miffed about the lies and fraud, but also a deep respect for the athlete who beat her...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel De Mazarin View Post
    my bad... didn't realize the universe of discourse.... but regardless... Nastia (sounds like a good pornstar name) can hold her head up high...
    Nastia --
    Nastia Girls!
    *doo doo doo doo-DOO*

    Of course, the humane concerns end up overriding this... but it would still be interesting to see what Nastia actually thought about He.... if Nastia's really a sportswoman at heart, she probably feels miffed about the lies and fraud, but also a deep respect for the athlete who beat her...
    N seems authentic enough, especially for 16.

    At any level, even a decent person would feel cheated. But yes, they'd also see things from more than that perspective and be able to be supportive of others in their successes. I guess that's one way we tell the difference between mature and immature.

    She also accomplished her personal goals with her victories, so that helped her too.
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    She's 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    She's 18.
    Is that in dog years?

    (Oh, wait, you meant Nastia? Sorry.)
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    How about this-

    Slashdot | Hacker Uncovers Chinese Olympic Fraud

    Link to the actual article: Stryde Hax

    I'll have a helping of "OWNED" with that, thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    The audacity of the lies are what annoy me. Let's just call a spade a spade.

    Nastia won the gold in the all-around competition. She lost the gold to He Kexin on the balance beam (?), which is what we are discussing here... due to the way the tie-breaker was settled. (But like others say, yes, the rules were agreed on up-front, so... meh.)

    I didn't examine everything she said, but N seemed pretty classy overall in her reactions to things. And she won the all-around gold, so that probably helped salve things a bit.
    She lost to Shawn Johnson on the balance beam. We saw it last night; both Americans were superb. The Chinese girl got a bronze; again the scoring for her having bobbled was generous. The other two made no mistakes.

    More outrageous judging on the vault where the Chinese gymnast fell on her knees, went out of bounds and made other mistakes and still knocked Alicia Sacramone (she needs a blessing) off the podium.
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    Gymnastics, like most performance arts, is susceptible to fraud in a way real sports aren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spirilis View Post
    How about this-

    Slashdot | Hacker Uncovers Chinese Olympic Fraud

    Link to the actual article: Stryde Hax

    I'll have a helping of "OWNED" with that, thank you.
    Wow. That guy is amazing.
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    LOL, I love that the guy thought to have everyone else to a screenshot on their own searches, too. I doubt China will have to answer for this, though.

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