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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    I'm sure you think google knows everything, but it doesn't. the year the music died was 1969, not 1959.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    I'm sure you think google knows everything, but it doesn't. the year the music died was 1969, not 1959.
    No, it wasn't.

    It was February 3, 1959.

    The Day the Music Died - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Granted, there are a lot of references to events and musicians of the next decade in that song. I'm pretty sure the "quartet" is the Beatles, and the "joker" is Bob Dylan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    No, it wasn't.

    It was February 3, 1959.

    The Day the Music Died - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Granted, there are a lot of references to events and musicians of the next decade in that song. I'm pretty sure the "quartet" is the Beatles, and the "joker" is Bob Dylan.
    "The Day The Music Died."

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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    No, it wasn't.

    It was February 3, 1959.

    The Day the Music Died - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Granted, there are a lot of references to events and musicians of the next decade in that song. I'm pretty sure the "quartet" is the Beatles, and the "joker" is Bob Dylan.
    The Wikipedia article offers no argument, it only states that as "fact." The Wikipedia article, at any rate, is wrong. My argument doesn't fall against a page that offers utterly no argument, only assertion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    That's a matter of opinion and not the topic of this thread.

    I hadn't really thought of this in terms of "rock is dead"; however, the last few years have seen such a dearth of good rock music that it seems like radio stations are being forced to scrape the bottom of the barrel. The best rock song these days wouldn't even approach the same level as the worst Kiss song.
    People have been complaining about the stuff played on the radio for a looooong time now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grey_beard View Post
    People have been complaining about the stuff played on the radio for a looooong time now.

    From 1972, hippie-Jesus-Freak Larry Norman's Reader's Digest off of the "Only Visiting This Planet" album (1972):
    Jesus freaks are always complaining about something. And by the way, 1972 was an amazing year for rock music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Jesus freaks are always complaining about something. And by the way, 1972 was an amazing year for rock music.
    Aye, but on the other hand, I liked the lyrics

    Jimi took an overdose
    Janis followed so close
    The whole music scene and the bands
    are pretty comatose


    and

    I don't dig the radio
    I hate what the charts pick
    Rock and Roll may not be dead
    but it's gettin' sick


    which kind of encapsulate the point of the OP : and *forty years ago*.
    Some things never change, was my point.

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    How new is new?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Grunge. Nirvana.
    IMO Nirvana was really not that good. Much noise.

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    That was a last gasp. Then the labels had to beat grunge with a dead horse and we got a hundred uninspired knockoff bands.
    Quote Originally Posted by fia View Post
    Ha. I first read the OP as:
    Rock did not die of old age. It was murdered by Gene Simmons of the rock group Kiss.

    Anyway, commercialized pop is often trashy and vapid, but there is so much independent artistic work out there which we have more access to now that the internet allows more freedom than when music was entirely controlled by record companies. There is so much out there that most people aren't aware of at all, but is intelligent and deep.
    Kiss was not horribly bad and certainly not the end of rock music. They were late 70s and early 80s. Def Leppard, Aerosmith, Winger, Stone Temple Pilots, Led Zepplin, Dream Theatre, Motley Crue, Faith No More. These were good bands.

    Independent artistic work is not very relevant if nobody ever hears about it.

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