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    Robin Williams is dead. These celebrity deaths usually don't affect me too much, but I grew up on his movies, and the nature of his death and relative youth make it a bit shocking. Perhaps the most surreal celeb death since MJ in '09.

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    Yeah, I posted in my blog. And yes, I think it is definitely as big a passing as MJ.

    Also very sad with the passing of Phillip Seymour Hoffman earlier this year.

    Just kinda unbelievable and heartbreaking.
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    I was actually shocked I loved mork and mindy growing up watched most of his films. most of the time I don't care or i don't really know them. not that I knew him on a personal level but I was more familar with his work
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    My wife's boyfriend in high school went to camp with his son, apparently. He was very quiet and reserved irl. I think depression is fairly common with comedians.

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    Can we make a deal with the reaper and trade Lou Reed and Robin Williams for Justin Beiber, Pat Robertson, and the cast of Duck Dynasty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain curmudgeon View Post
    Can we make a deal with the reaper and trade Lou Reed and Robin Williams for Justin Beiber, Pat Robertson, and the cast of Duck Dynasty?
    Celebrity Swap? Yeah.
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    Phillip Seymour Hoffman hit me harder for some reason.

    But what hit me harder about this was that it was an apparent suicide. He had battled severe depression and cause of death asphyxiation. Hanging? Sorry if that was too graphic. Geez, I hope it's not embarassing sexual thing like David Carodine, cuz that's like, all I think about when I think of him. Well, Kill Bill was awesome.

    I think what's really sad about this and Hoffman (especially this, IF it was a suicide, seems so) is that with all that money, they still couldn't get help. I mean, I'm pretty sure they had been trying.

    Hemingway and Hunter S. had some terminal, very painful issues, I think. THAT I can understand. And hell, I guess I can understand if you are suffering in total MENTAL agony year after year (did he have Bi-Polar?). But at least with that, there's medication, and islands, prolly coulda bought an island.

    I think it just goes to show that you have to work hard everyday to avoid your demons if they're as bad as his, really try to pinpoint exactly what is going on. Something a doctor/therapist can't always do.

    Then sometimes I think people just have no will to live. For whatever reason. I personally think it's your life, especially if you've taken care of any you've created. I dunno. Sad all around.

    And actually, you could really see him channel that serious side in Good Will Hunting, a side I'd never really seen so clearly of him. Whole new level of respect. Anyway, poor guy, RIP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyyukon View Post
    Phillip Seymour Hoffman hit me harder for some reason.

    But what hit me harder about this was that it was an apparent suicide. He had battled severe depression and cause of death asphyxiation. Hanging? Sorry if that was too graphic. Geez, I hope it's not embarassing sexual thing like David Carodine, cuz that's like, all I think about when I think of him. Well, Kill Bill was awesome.

    I think what's really sad about this and Hoffman (especially this, IF it was a suicide, seems so) is that with all that money, they still couldn't get help. I mean, I'm pretty sure they had been trying.

    Hemingway and Hunter S. had some terminal, very painful issues, I think. THAT I can understand. And hell, I guess I can understand if you are suffering in total MENTAL agony year after year (did he have Bi-Polar?). But at least with that, there's medication, and islands, prolly coulda bought an island.

    I think it just goes to show that you have to work hard everyday to avoid your demons if they're as bad as his, really try to pinpoint exactly what is going on. Something a doctor/therapist can't always do.

    Then sometimes I think people just have no will to live. For whatever reason. I personally think it's your life, especially if you've taken care of any you've created. I dunno. Sad all around.

    And actually, you could really see him channel that serious side in Good Will Hunting, a side I'd never really seen so clearly of him. Whole new level of respect. Anyway, poor guy, RIP.
    Neither Hemingway nor Thompson were terminally ill.
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    For Thompson:
    Those present told the press that they did not believe his suicide was out of desperation, but was a premeditated act resulting from his many painful and chronic medical conditions, which included a hip replacement. What Doug Brinkley describes as a suicide note written by Thompson to his wife was later published by Rolling Stone in the September issue No. 983. Titled "Football Season Is Over", it read:

    "No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun — for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your (old) age. Relax — This won't hurt."[48]
    Artist-collaborator and friend Ralph Steadman wrote:

    "... He told me 25 years ago that he would feel real trapped if he didn't know that he could commit suicide at any moment. I don't know if that is brave or stupid or what, but it was inevitable. I think that the truth of what rings through all his writing is that he meant what he said.
    I mean, hell, Freud killed himself due to chronic pain (jaw cancer), although I think his situation was actually terminal. Chronic pain (physical or mental) has a large impact on attitude and wears down your emotional endurance and impacts your reasoning.

    I think Williams is important in the culture BECAUSE he was known as a comedian first and yet later that can be juxtaposed against his dramatic career and you can see both elements strongly in the same person and how that plays out. I think the best comedians are deeply aware of the human condition and the seriousness of everything; they bring that dual awareness into what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by captain curmudgeon View Post
    Neither Hemingway nor Thompson were terminally ill.
    Poor choice of words, but I meant, they had really bad mental and physical pain that wasn't going away (maybe terminal was right).

    Thompson had severe pain from a hip replacement (with some other issues) and Hemingway got very ill and started suffering from severe depression and hemochromatosis:


    "During his final years, Hemingway's behavior was similar to his father's before he himself committed suicide;[151] his father may have had the genetic disease hemochromatosis, in which the inability to metabolize iron culminates in mental and physical deterioration.[152]

    Medical records made available in 1991 confirm that Hemingway's hemochromatosis had been diagnosed in early 1961.[153] His sister Ursula and his brother Leicester also committed suicide.[154] Added to Hemingway's physical ailments was the additional problem that he had been a heavy drinker for most of his life."
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