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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Im not getting what your point is other than you also belong to the Lana hater club. Her fan base is intense and you either get it or you don't, but some people criticize her without even have had listened to her music or understanding her relevance musically...and it's fine to not like her. I mean don't you mostly prefer rap and hip hop, whatever. But calling her bottom of the barrel when she is musically talented is simply incorrect, and calling her a hipster isn't a real reason. Usually people who call LDR a hipster are hipsters themselves in the most insecure lemmings sense of the word, rather than the artistic or socially aware or relevant sense of the word. My ISTP was pointing out just how misused and pointless the word hipster has become because it has so many definitions. Originally hipsters were people like Andy Warhols Factory and the beatniks who came before them.
    i listen to all kinds of music, and don't find her talented or think that there is very much to "get." i don't care to argue over semantics about the origins of the word "hipster," but it seems to me that lana's image was pretty much created to target the hipster market. a lot of people who dislike her probably fit that label too, but only because most non-hipsters probably don't know or care who she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickpea View Post
    i listen to all kinds of music, and don't find her talented or think that there is very much to "get." i don't care to argue over semantics about the origins of the word "hipster," but it seems to me that lana's image was pretty much created to target the hipster market. a lot of people who dislike her probably fit that label too, but only because most non-hipsters probably don't know or care who she is.
    Look here friend, I discovered Lana when she was making her own.videos on YouTube for unreleased songs I doubt you have even seen, and I am like wow this woman says something to me and my aesthetic and interests. Then Born to Die was released and it was tres cool to hate on her, since she was no longer Lizzy Grant. When you have listened to Ultraviolence from beginning to end in its entirety and can comment on it's musical components, let me know. Until then I will presume you think it's cool for certain artists to have a stylist, as long as it's your own aesthetic. If you think there isn't much to get I doubt you even really have listened to anything but released singles from Born to Die, and incidentally, I don't hate that album, I love Off to the Races and National Anthem, but Ultraviolence is the more mature cohesive album and will be nominated for album of the year. Just watch.

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    I just think I don't I don't give fuck about anyone who exists hipster or not. I don't need defend a person's honor i just want to join the fight damnit!!!!
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Lana >

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvery sleeves View Post
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    is greater than my scroll bar? that's not a very high compliment, but ok
    In no likes experiment.

    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Default Marmotinis Handy Dandy Lana Guide

    So that you don't look like a mouth breathing hipster to her fans.

    1) The Big Sleep. Maltese Falcon. Mildred Pierce. All the big film noir of the 40s, maybe even Brick.

    2)Speaking of high school, Lolita by Nabokov

    3) American pop culture 101: patriotism, capitalism, materialism, Marilyn Monroe, John Wayne, James Dean

    4) Femme fatale as a literary construct.

    5) the archetype of women as whore/prostitute/mistress in various forms

    6) Los Angeles, irrational love of Los Angeles and it's cultural significance and history

    7) white trash, trailer parks, cheap motels, romanticism of the teenaged runaway or free spirit (See: Hick)

    8) alcoholism and drug addiction as an intimate topic

    9) dominance and submission

    10) sexual and romantic fantasies of American heterosexual woman

    You're welcome [***] . Lana del Rey is smarter than most of the people who criticize her, she's an abstract embodiment of American culture, from a twentieth century historic perspective. BUT NO YOU GUIZ ARE SO SMRT. MAKE SURE U BE LAUGHING AT SNL PERFORMANCE.
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    where is this guide supposed to lead me? do you have a reading list prepared? to help me to like a pop singer that i'm not into?

    i think i already have a pretty good understanding of all of these topics, except film noir i guess, but she still doesn't do it for me. sorry boo. i also find the notion that a prep school girl whose career was bankrolled by her rich daddy is supposed to represent trailer parks and white trash completely ridiculous. but maybe it's too ~abstract~ for me *breathes from mouth*

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    You're welcome, [***]. Lana del Rey is smarter than most of the people who criticize her, she's an abstract embodiment of American culture, from a twentieth century historic perspective. BUT NO YOU GUIZ ARE SO SMRT. MAKE SURE U BE LAUGHING AT SNL PERFORMANCE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    You're welcome, [***]. Lana del Rey is smarter than most of the people who criticize her, she's an abstract embodiment of American culture, from a twentieth century historic perspective. BUT NO YOU GUIZ ARE SO SMRT. MAKE SURE U BE LAUGHING AT SNL PERFORMANCE.
    Lol, this obviously blew out of proportion real quick, so let me try to stop this right here.

    My comment was written on a dare. I find her terribly boring as a musician, but had it been a genuine criticism, I would've chosen other words.

    So before this turns to another shitstorm, please know that it was a joke, and the severity of your reaction unanticipated.
    Last edited by Bellflower; 08-06-2014 at 01:25 PM. Reason: insult edited
    I FEEL ALRIGHT

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    hive thinks Atrocity Exhibition is the worst song on Closer, lol

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