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    Hello to all of you guys,
    Is there any of you can help me finding the relationships/patterns of table that I attach below? (file name: puzle.pdf)
    (The table consist of 100 rows and 20 columns, contains of numbers 0-9).
    Thank's.

    EDIT:
    Maybe this clues, that I've found so far, can help?
    Assume:
    # 1-350 as rows, #1-20 as columns.
    Number 5 in row 1, column 2 repeated again in row 2, column 2.
    Number 6 in row 1, column 3/4 repeated again in row 2, column 4.
    Number 8 in row 1, column 6/8 repeated again in row 2, column 5/8.
    Number 7 in row 1, column 9 repeated again in row 2, column 11.
    Number 3 in row 1, column 11 repeated again in row 2, column 12.
    Number 8 in row 1, column 12 repeated again in row 2, column 9.
    Number 9 in row 1, column 14/15 repeated again in row 2, column 16.
    Number 4 in row 1, column 19/20 repeated again in row 2, column 17.

    Number 8 in row 2, column 5/8 repeated again in row 3, column 8.
    Number 7 in row 2, column 11 repeated again in row 3, column 11.
    Number 4 in row 2, column 17 repeated again in row 3, column 18.
    Number 9 in row 2, column 20 repeated again in row 3, column 20.

    Number 8 in row 3 column 8 repeated again in row 4, column 6.
    Number 0 in row 3, column 10 repeated again in row 4, column 12.
    Number 5 in row 3, column 12 repeated again in row 4, column 10.
    Number 2 in row 3, column 13 repeated again in row 4, column 13.
    Number 6 in row 3, column 17 repeated again in row 4, column 18.
    Number 4 in row 3, column 18 repeated again in row 4, column 20.
    Number 5 in row 3, column 19 repeated again in row 4, column 19.

    Temporary conclusion:
    There's at least one number repeated to the next row (if the tables is seen by every four columns), but sometimes there's indeed no repeated numbers at all (such as column 1,2,3,4 row 1 to row 2).
    This not just happen to the next row, but also to the next four columns.
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    Hi entropie, nice to meet you...
    Once I had seen this by normal distribution approach, but looks like no result.
    Someone in other forum also gave me these:
    VIC cipher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The VIC Cipher
    Nihilist cipher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    But I don't learn it yet.
    Thx.

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    Tables, so I thought multiplication... but I got nothing. I don't "see" anything either: http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php...ty_122_6lo.jpg (not even when I made them pixel size-ish)

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    If you manage that, try this one. I'd like to know what it says.

    http://oranchak.com/zodiac/webtoy/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colors View Post
    Tables, so I thought multiplication... but I got nothing. I don't "see" anything either (not even when I made them pixel size-ish)
    The sequences of the columns don't have to be 1,2,3,...20. You can make new sequences, as long as the sequences of the rows change simultaneously. Someone had tried to visualize it at gestalt, but the patterns are hidden so neatly, or it needs another approaches.
    Now I take this to algoritma/cipher/cryptography forums.
    Thx.

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