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    Yeah, I think I agree with much of that. ^^

    He's flexing to the situation, where going through conventional channels only got him locked up himself; he knows that isn't going to work now.

    But I think you hit on something when you mentioned "exploring his dark parts in order to fully understand himself." yes, yes, yes. It's a very INP thing, to immerse yourself into the dark part in order to figure it out. (My experience with INJ is that it likes to keep the boundaries, to quell anxiety and keep things defined, which immersion does not allow for.) And that's what he is doing -- exploring himself; he needs to understand that wellspring of dark deep inside, in order to deal with it and not be blindsided by it again, and he knows no one but Hannibal can probably do that. So that's another benefit to him playing the kind of game he is playing right now.

    The show is presenting a lot of things at face value, in terms of Will and Crawford's views of Hannibal and seemingly "taken in by him," but I think they're both really just playing things out. Like the whole scene with Freddie at the barn.... it seems pretty likely that there's a lot going on behind the scenes that is not being presented. I still have my suspicions over Chilton's 'demise' as well ... and as Freddie surmised, Chilton only had the surgical skills on the surface but in practice was not capable of what they've been seeing (and the thought of someone like Chilton being so sloppy in the episode he was caught... rather ridiculous) but Hannibal is. I think Alana might be one of the few people left who genuinely believes Hannibal to be falsely suspected. Most people seem to have their hackles up with Hannibal now, even if they can't place a finger on why; and he knows this, but he also knows unless he makes a mistake, their suspicions have no traction.... and it's an exhilarating challenge to continually be untouchable. What else is there for him, as a hunter, without the chase and proving his own superiority to his prey?
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    WOO HOOO!

    “Hannibal” had been on the fence for a pickup, but its hard core fan base and international appeal put it over the top. NBC noted that the edgy show derived from the “Silence of the Lambs” franchise is the youngest-skewing 10 p.m. drama on NBC, ABC or CBS.

    “Hannibal” is also a good bargain for NBC as it is produced by Gaumont Intl. TV and Sony Pictures TV Networks with financing from overseas outlets that allows NBC to pays more modest license fee than a typical U.S.-produced drama. The cost issue was not the only factor in securing the renewal of the series, created and exec produced by Bryan Fuller, but it didn’t hurt.
    ... in other news, Revolution got canceled.
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    I think Mason is also an ENTP. So far there were three entps in the series (that is if Chilton was also one).

    Anyway it was expected that Freddie wasn't going to be killed. What I didn't expect was to be a part of the act until the medical record scene in which it was obvious the FBI was trying to trick Hannibal. (Will don't have the recourses to fool the FBI into thinking the the burned carcass was that of Freddie.)

    I am slightly disappointed in Crawford for taking so long to believe in Will.

    Alana Bloom is a joke that acts as comic relief. Sleeping with a suspect. Very professional .

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    So Will is not a killer after all, I guess it was pretty predictable though it leaves me kind of disappointed in the power of this show to blow your brain off...Anyway if just Will would bring a voice recodrer to on one of his sessions with Hannibal it could be enough to convict him, but I guess tricking and messing with everyone around is just more interesting for the plot.

    Anyway am I the only who liked the idea of Will being a killer? It was kinda messed up this good weird way.

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    So this show has a character who literally drinks the tears of children. On any other show, that would seem like a step too far.

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    I love AV Club. Someone pointed that^ out there, and someone else made this comment which made me LOL for reals:

    Hannibal: Will’s therapy is finally going well.
    Alana: I dunno, he seems pretttty murder-y lately.
    Hannibal: … yeah. Goin’ really great.

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    More AV club fun, spoilered because spoilers:



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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDeep View Post
    So Will is not a killer after all, I guess it was pretty predictable though it leaves me kind of disappointed in the power of this show to blow your brain off...Anyway if just Will would bring a voice recodrer to on one of his sessions with Hannibal it could be enough to convict him, but I guess tricking and messing with everyone around is just more interesting for the plot.

    Anyway am I the only who liked the idea of Will being a killer? It was kinda messed up this good weird way.
    I'm not sure if I like the idea of Will as a killer. The show definitely f'd with my head, because I was pretty convinced that he was like, 2 episodes back. Then after watching I thought about it and was like "wait a second, that's not who Will is. this show isn't going to be Hannibal and Will, the serial killer super horror duo"



    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I love AV Club. Someone pointed that^ out there, and someone else made this comment which made me LOL for reals:

    Hannibal: Will’s therapy is finally going well.
    Alana: I dunno, he seems pretttty murder-y lately.
    Hannibal: … yeah. Goin’ really great.
    Lol, love the AV club. Comment section is often more illuminating than than the article.

    Mason has also drank (drunk? drunken?) the tears of women. He just likes any 'ol tears, I think. Spruces up any martini.

    Showing alana Freddie, that alone seems risky. She's already starting to lose her shit, and if she, too, is now convinced Hannibal is the killer, Hannibal may see right through her. Or be on high alert when/if she stops seeing him.

    I don't know about anyone else, but it seems somewhat hard to believe Hannibal could be so duped by so many. If he's indeed the same Hannibal as is in the Mythos, "Don't lie Clarice, or I'll know."

    So it looks like Will has set up Mason to kill Hannibal. I thought that was a rough decision on Will's part, seeing as what Mason's, um, done to his sister and Will's future baby mama (christ, that scene, "the horror!"). He really may be the only man with the resources to do that, even though he himself is a monster.

    I'm also looking forward to seeing Mason try and what Hannibal does to Mason, as I hate (in a loving way) him more right now (Michael Pitt was an excellent choice).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    That scene was so good.

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    It really was.

    True story: my husband really liked the name Alana when we were expecting our first child. I thought it sounded too much like Alanis Morissette who was still kind of popular then. I'm so glad I talked him out of it. I would hate for this show to remind me of anybody I love.

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