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    Quote Originally Posted by simulatedworld View Post
    None of this appears to refute anything I've said except by means of meaningless simple contradiction. I am not at all convinced you understand what you are talking about function-wise.
    Lolz okay I guess.
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    Oh boy! Episode 10!





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    This shit is getting creepier and creepier. That scene with the Vergers in the barn was... chilling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post


    This shit is getting creepier and creepier. That scene with the Vergers in the barn was... chilling.
    Haha, I like how you kinda figured that out as you went along.
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    I'm really hoping that the person in the wheel chair on fire on the episode 11 preview isn't Freddie. I know that in the Red Dragon movie they did the same with the other Freddie (who was a male), but I really hope they don't kill this one off so soon... even if she is a bit annoying.

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    I hope so too. I feel like they've been doing "homages" to the events in the books and movies, not really taking them very literally, so the chances are very good that it won't be Freddie. However, they did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    I hope so too. I feel like they've been doing "homages" to the events in the books and movies, not really taking them very literally, so the chances are very good that it won't be Freddie. However, they did
    I like the unpredictability.
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    This episode was pure sick psycho mindfuck! I love the show more and more, probably the best tv show I've ever seen! Moooaar, mooaar of season 2!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post


    This shit is getting creepier and creepier. That scene with the Vergers in the barn was... chilling.
    Yeah to all that.

    This is one of the best episodes, although that's not saying much -- they're all typically good. But as far as the creep factor goes? So much! That whole opening scene for starters. Then the slow decline of Will in becoming Lecter.... but is it real or just a trap Will and the others are setting for Hannibal?

    And then the whole sex segment



    I no longer have any idea where they're going, because they're swiping stuff from Hannibal (the later book) as well as Red Dragon now.

    The Vergers are pretty messed up too.



    ...I also have to add that my therapy sessions were totally boring compared to the ones in this show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ginkgo View Post


    (Made by BlackCat. Take it with a grain of salt, if you wish. However, in theory, I don't think it's hard to grasp how Ni may play a part in inducing the same kind of anxieties 6's must cope with. How the other functions of an INFJ, in particular, converge with 6 tendencies seems more open to interpretation.)



    Yes, I recognize that Si often functions as a repository for symbolic information.

    And while I think Will frequently makes decisions as an INFP would, he suffers from so much dissociation (off and on the job) that it's hard for him not to look like a Pi dom. Sure, he searches for himself as an INFP would, but I think the typical INFP has the puzzling tendency to simultaneously show a robust sense of self. Or at least attempt to, in whatever fashion they see as most fitting, sometimes regardless of how truthful it is. But the most I see of that in Will is by way of his principles. Principles I could see as byproducts of Ti.

    We also see Will drawing conclusions with very little information on hand (even when he's not in his "zone"). Are we to say his offhand insights stem from Si as well? His years of education and training?

    In any case, I interpreted Will's hesitation to kill Hannibal not just being motivated by his desire to understand himself, but also to apprehend Hannibal in the most honorable way possible. Do you still see INFPs as that self serving, that they would let a killer go just for the sake of personal introspection?
    As you said, he's dissociating so much he doesn't really know where his own boundaries are anymore and he deeply resents Hannibal for fucking him up this much. The reason Will is letting Hannibal go right now is that:

    A) He knows killing Hannibal would get him put away forever (and he isn't stupid enough to do that), and
    B) He knows he can't convince the law or any of his colleagues that Hannibal is guilty, so instead he's just trying to learn what he can from him (and possibly set him up for a big coup later.)

    Some part of him--the dark parts he feels he needs to explore in order to fully understand himself--is curious and wants guidance from Hannibal, since Hannibal has obviously been through all of this himself already. Will feels some level of goodwill and friendship from Hannibal's relatively rudimentary Fi, and he wants to learn, but he also hates Hannibal and can never forgive him for what he's done. If Will believed he could get Hannibal legally brought to justice for his crimes, he'd do it in an instant, but he's come to realize Hannibal is simply too thorough for that.
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