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    Did anyone get a good reading as to whose name was on the business card that was shown to Paul when he went looking for information regarding the jewels? I saw a T. That's it.

    Edit - I think it's Teague Dixon. That dude is already dead. Yay!

    So it seems like Ray killed the wrong guy based on a lie by Frank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riva View Post
    Did anyone get a good reading as to whose name was on the business card that was shown to Paul when he went looking for information regarding the jewels? I saw a T. That's it.

    Edit - I think it's Teague Dixon. That dude is already dead. Yay!

    So it seems like Ray killed the wrong guy based on a lie by Frank.
    Right. He may be dead but why was he taking pics of Paul when he was out with his war buddy? Because of the thing with the actress wearing a lojack on her ankle? Because he may have killed Ben Casper?
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    Mixed feelings on Episode 5, in some ways it was a backslide. (Let's jump ahead two months, shall we? And have to regroup?) I'm just not big on Frank, although he and wife got a lot of time in this episode to talk about where things are going to get back on the same page with each other.

    Then again, we got to see Rick Springfield get what was coming to him


    And Velcarro found out what we were pretty sure of all along, and now there might be hell to pay... Darn it, Frank, just when you and wifey were starting to mend the fences.
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    Episode 6 was better (it tends to improve when people are actually DOING things), although again there tends to be a lot of weak stuff in the Frank plotline (Vaughn again pulls off some scenes adequately and completely flatlines other scenes, like the opening bit between him and Colin Farrell in the kitchen -- you really see the difference between a struggling actor and someone who is quite talented... i'm hoping this get Farrell some new roles in the future because he really showed his range in this season).

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    I don't see them doing much with this season. Besides they have only 2 episodes left. It's nothing compared to season 1.

    What was it about season 1 that made me feel it was longer and better.
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    From my perspective, in season 1 there weren't really any weak actors; and more importantly, the plot was more focused ("who is killing these girls?"). Everything plot-wise served that question. This season we have zillions of subplots and can't really see how progress in them has much to do with Caspere's death. Instead of interesting complexity in pursuit of a goal where progress keeps being made, we got complication and it's unclear what progress is being made.

    In this last episode (which I still think is one of the best episodes of the season), Ani finds someone who I didn't even remember her looking for; and Frank gives a touching speech about some dead guy who I couldn't recall even being alive, let alone dead. I had to go back and research the synopses. That is the primary problem with this season, IMO.
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    ^ oh yeah thats why season 1 was better. Who is killing these girls.

    Here we have no idea what to focus on.

    Also th spooky rural setting of season 1 had an affect on me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    From my perspective, in season 1 there weren't really any weak actors; and more importantly, the plot was more focused ("who is killing these girls?"). Everything plot-wise served that question. This season we have zillions of subplots and can't really see how progress in them has much to do with Caspere's death. Instead of interesting complexity in pursuit of a goal where progress keeps being made, we got complication and it's unclear what progress is being made.

    In this last episode (which I still think is one of the best episodes of the season), Ani finds someone who I didn't even remember her looking for; and Frank gives a touching speech about some dead guy who I couldn't recall even being alive, let alone dead. I had to go back and research the synopses. That is the primary problem with this season, IMO.
    I agree, too much going on is the problem. I still don't dislike the show but, season 1 had a single, very VERY clear objective. Who killed Ben Caspere is almost a subplot in this season and it's boring in comparison to the next set of teeth Frank is ripping out with pliers (I loved that btw), Ani's backstory, Ray's nearly suicidal behavior and Paul, well, he's like the only cop doing any cop (or true detective) work.

    I really liked that choice of music they used at the orgy mansion. Much better than the standard danger music. And of COURSE there is a unicorn involved in this show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by riva View Post
    ^ oh yeah thats why season 1 was better. Who is killing these girls.

    Here we have no idea what to focus on.

    Also th spooky rural setting of season 1 had an affect on me.
    To me, there was always a pollution funk that touched everything in season 1. It was in the air, the soil and the people (remember Rust saying he could taste the aluminium and ash?) That, in addition to the creepy, fucked up, Louisiana setting (including all the hurricane and oil spill craziness) made it far more creepy. This season isn't creepy to me much at all.
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    The creepiest part of this season (aside from the weird animal mask guy who we've barely seen) is the title sequence (to the tune of "Nevermind") which I really like. And maybe when Valcoro wakes up to the impersonator singing in his head. But that's not necessarily creepy except in a David Lynch kind of way. This season hasn't been as much about "creep" factor.

    Quote Originally Posted by ceecee View Post
    Who killed Ben Caspere is almost a subplot in this season and it's boring in comparison to the next set of teeth Frank is ripping out with pliers (I loved that btw)..
    I think Frank always does better when he's doing something. That was definitely one of his more shining moments (along with the nail-torture from episode 6, etc.) The worst tends to be when they hand him some of that dialogue that McConaughey could pull off / make sound interesting but some actors can't...

    I really liked that choice of music they used at the orgy mansion. Much better than the standard danger music. And of COURSE there is a unicorn involved in this show.
    The whole orgy thing was really interesting. It could have very easily become another question of "Is HBO exploiting women for ratings / titillating adult content?" like what has happened in GoT at times, and instead based on the shots used / directorial choices worked as a dramatic element. (It became more like Ani was walking through hell, everything from her perspective, and trying to make sense of things...)
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