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    I have no idea why everyone was dazzled by this movie. It's full of cheap-drama, authoriarian oppression cliches, heroism cliches, turn-coat plot-twists, teenage drama. Bored me to death. Never has another hollywood movie crammed so many cliches in one movie. They should have just made the president katniss father, and that blonde kid her brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Kross View Post
    Peeta is ESFJ. It's more clear in the books.
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    I agree with Peeta being an Fe dom. He knows how to play audiences like none other. The books made a big deal of how naturally it came to him, while Katniss' performances were usually very stilted in contrast.

    ISTP for Katniss, yeah.

    INFJ for Cinna. Tons of idiosyncratic vision there. I liked Lenny Kravitz's performance in the first movie too. I think he was picked after his role in Precious?
    ISTP for Katnis was quite easy. Any idea what her enneagram type is? I am tempted to type her as an 9w8 but something tells me she is a 6w5.

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    I watched both movies recently and I thought they were kinda "meh". The biggest problem I had was I don't find the universe to be the slightest bit believable. How is one city controlling such a large region so completely? And what happened to empathy? Why do none of the citizens of the capital have any? Or if they do have empathy, what have they been doing for the last 75 years? The universe seems like it was created by someone who doesn't have any idea how human societies actually work. I can see why teenagers like it. It's high on cheap drama.

    Oh, one other thing...in the second movie they were idiots for going back into the forest after they discovered how the "clock" worked. All they needed to do was stay near the shore and near the boundary of a wedge. That nonsense reminded me of Walking Dead, which I stopped watching after season 2 because the characters made so many stupid (drama enhancing) decisions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
    I watched both movies recently and I thought they were kinda "meh". The biggest problem I had was I don't find the universe to be the slightest bit believable. How is one city controlling such a large region so completely? And what happened to empathy? Why do none of the citizens of the capital have any? Or if they do have empathy, what have they been doing for the last 75 years? The universe seems like it was created by someone who doesn't have any idea how human societies actually work. I can see why teenagers like it. It's high on cheap drama.

    Oh, one other thing...in the second movie they were idiots for going back into the forest after they discovered how the "clock" worked. All they needed to do was stay near the shore and near the boundary of a wedge. That nonsense reminded me of Walking Dead, which I stopped watching after season 2 because the characters made so many stupid (drama enhancing) decisions.
    In general, while your criticisms are legitimate, I think one issue is the amount of information passed among the sectors. Information is locked down / spun so insanely that a lot of people really don't understand what is going on. From the capital's perspective, the other zones tries to murder the administration and the capital citizens and would do so again if given the opportunity and resources. That's why the Hunger Games exist -- to keep the other zones in line. Only people "in the know" in the capital are aware of what is going on, and of course they've actually been planning a rebellion from the inside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    In general, while your criticisms are legitimate, I think one issue is the amount of information passed among the sectors. Information is locked down / spun so insanely that a lot of people really don't understand what is going on. From the capital's perspective, the other zones tries to murder the administration and the capital citizens and would do so again if given the opportunity and resources. That's why the Hunger Games exist -- to keep the other zones in line. Only people "in the know" in the capital are aware of what is going on, and of course they've actually been planning a rebellion from the inside.
    Right, and it only took them 75 years...
    "We grow up thinking that beliefs are something to be proud of, but they're really nothing but opinions one refuses to reconsider. Beliefs are easy. The stronger your beliefs are, the less open you are to growth and wisdom, because "strength of belief" is only the intensity with which you resist questioning yourself. As soon as you are proud of a belief, as soon as you think it adds something to who you are, then you've made it a part of your ego."

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