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  • Verse 1

    7 50.00%
  • Verse 2

    2 14.29%
  • Verse 3

    0 0%
  • Verse 4

    3 21.43%
  • Verse 5

    2 14.29%
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    Default Times They Are A-Changin'

    Ok, I have this idea about the song Times They Are A-Changin by the one and only Mr. Bob Dylan. Great song, no doubt, but like a lot of his songs, I believe he hits a universal truth pretty well with this one. My idea is that all the verses in this song kind of represent different takes or perspectives on the same basic concept. So here's the question: Which verse is your favorite? Why? Also, please include your MBTI type and enneagram, so I can explore correlations if and when they arise. Thanks for obliging : D

    VERSE 1
    Come gather 'round people
    Wherever you roam
    And admit that the waters
    Around you have grown
    And accept it that soon
    You'll be drenched to the bone
    If your time to you
    Is worth savin'
    Then you better start swimmin'
    Or you'll sink like a stone
    For the times they are a-changin'.

    VERSE 2
    Come writers and critics
    Who prophesize with your pen
    And keep your eyes wide
    The chance won't come again
    And don't speak too soon
    For the wheel's still in spin
    And there's no tellin' who
    That it's namin'
    For the loser now
    Will be later to win
    For the times they are a-changin'.

    VERSE 3
    Come senators, congressmen
    Please heed the call
    Don't stand in the doorway
    Don't block up the hall
    For he that gets hurt
    Will be he who has stalled
    There's a battle outside
    And it is ragin'
    It'll soon shake your windows
    And rattle your walls
    For the times they are a-changin'.

    VERSE 4
    Come mothers and fathers
    Throughout the land
    And don't criticize
    What you can't understand
    Your sons and your daughters
    Are beyond your command
    Your old road is
    Rapidly agin'
    Please get out of the new one
    If you can't lend your hand
    For the times they are a-changin'.

    VERSE 5
    The line it is drawn
    The curse it is cast
    The slow one now
    Will later be fast
    As the present now
    Will later be past
    The order is
    Rapidly fadin'
    And the first one now
    Will later be last
    For the times they are a-changin'.
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    For your listening pleasure:

    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    Verse 1.

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    ESTJ 1w2, and definitely verse 5. Something about the Biblical imagery, and, more importantly, how ominous it is. It's the scariest and most powerful of the verses by virtue of being the least specific.

    It's the textual version of the score at the end of "1776" -- on the one hand, it's triumphant, but on the other hand, it's so much more complicated, because it doesn't ignore the sacrifice and terror and pain that will ensue in order to triumph.

    Starts at 6:03 -- they ring the bell to signify that they're signing the Declaration of Independence, that war has started, and that all of them might soon be executed.



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    ISFP 4. Verse numero five.

    This is the most original thread I've seen in a long while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    This is the most original thread I've seen in a long while.


    I'm curious as to @nicolita's theories regarding this.

    I mean, we've already got an ESTJ and an ISFP diggin' the "last shall be first" imagery of verse 5 -- easy to attribute to Fi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post


    I'm curious as to @nicolita's theories regarding this.

    I mean, we've already got an ESTJ and an ISFP diggin the "last shall be first" imagery of verse 5 -- easy to attribute to Fi.
    Funny you should say that, about Fi and the "last shall be first" thing. I actually had thought of this a long time ago, and had forgotten which verse I chose back then. I've voted 1 on this poll, but I just remembered that I chose 2 before.

    The interesting thing is that I interpreted that one as the first shall be last one. Or rather, how some of the best people, those who will ultimately be rewarded, are not the ones being written about or paid attention to. They are written off for being poor or crazy or whatever else.

    No real theory though, I'm hoping correlations will start popping out though so I can start developing one or some
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    Funny you should say that, about Fi and the "last shall be first" thing. I actually had thought of this a long time ago, and had forgotten which verse I chose back then. I've voted 1 on this poll, but I just remembered that I chose 2 before.

    The interesting thing is that I interpreted that one as the first shall be last one. Or rather, how some of the best people, those who will ultimately be rewarded, are not the ones being written about or paid attention to. They are written off for being poor or crazy or whatever else.
    Well I'd argue that all five verses are "last shall be first" verses -- but verse five is more Biblical, which is why I had put that direct quote in. But that's the really interesting part about the thread you've made here (from my interpretation of it) -- you could argue that all five verses have pretty much the same point, when you get down to it, so the question is not which general meaning you prefer, but which lesser meaning and which details you like best.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicolita View Post
    No real theory though, I'm hoping correlations will start popping out though so I can start developing one or some
    Looking forward to it.
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    INFJ, 4w5

    Verse 1: I like the imagery that people need to realize they can't hold on to old ways or resist the change, and they must do something before it's too late.

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    Verse 5.
    And so long as you haven’t experienced this: to die and so to grow,
    you are only a troubled guest on the dark earth

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