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    Quote Originally Posted by msg_v2 View Post
    He thinks that doesn't matter because he'll be at the top. In reality, he may become upper middle class, but he will not be wealthy on the level the Koch Brothers are wealthy.
    Right. The bottom 80% will still have around 7% of the wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    The part I didn't understand: (spoiler alert)
    i didn't get that either, actually, and had the same issue -- but I was going to check to see if I missed a plot point somewhere. It did seem ho-hum contrived. That's what I meant by, "no surprises here." The plot works as I expected it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    i didn't get that either, actually, and had the same issue -- but I was going to check to see if I missed a plot point somewhere. It did seem ho-hum contrived. That's what I meant by, "no surprises here." The plot works as I expected it.
    Well if an INTP doesn't get it, it must be a big hole.

    On the other hand, if he had lived happily ever after with Frey and Matilda I think it would look even more contrived. So maybe they just couldn't figure out a creative ending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Well if an INTP doesn't get it, it must be a big hole.

    On the other hand, if he had lived happily ever after with Frey and Matilda I think it would look even more contrived. So maybe they just couldn't figure out a creative ending.
    It did highlight a huge problem -- such a moment (with flashbacks) should have been more momentous and emotional. I didn't really feel much at all.

    Thought this review was kind of amusing.
    http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/08/10/elysium-ending/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    It did highlight a huge problem -- such a moment (with flashbacks) should have been more momentous and emotional. I didn't really feel much at all.

    Thought this review was kind of amusing.
    http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/08/10/elysium-ending/
    Pretty good review. I agree, it would get pretty complicated if everyone was [almost] immortal- that was kind of a big hole too, and wasn't really addressed. The health care should have been a little more realistic- or else the changes which would come with such things should have been. I didn't think the theme was as simplistic as they make it seem though, and I think overall it was still a good movie.

    I wonder, if they could have such advanced technology, why couldn't they make something (like a robot, because they have so many) which could clean up pollution as magically as people are re-atomized?

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    Ok, I've been persuaded by this thread to rate the movie as 3.5 stars instead of 4 (if 3 is average/ok).

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    I'd probably rate it at 2.5, MAYBE 3 max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    i didn't get that either, actually, and had the same issue -- but I was going to check to see if I missed a plot point somewhere. It did seem ho-hum contrived. That's what I meant by, "no surprises here." The plot works as I expected it.
    Carlyle or however-you-spell-it encrypted it that way when he wrote it at his desk. He had the option to set it as incapacitate vs. lethal and chose lethal. I assumed if you tried to extract it without a proper code it kills the vessel as a form of copyright protection. Let's hope the RIAA and MPAA don't get any ideas.

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    I thought the movie was very average, its message heavy handed and lacking nuance, storyline old as time, ultimately unsatisfying. The medbay concept seemed incredibly contrived (there didn't seem to be a reason for their scarcity other than a tiring "RICH PEOPLE ARE MEAN BOOHOO" cliche) and characters did things because "movie." Huge step down from D9. Thought Matt Damon was good but Jodie was shockingly terrible and wooden, but since the rest of the movie was written that way I don't know what she could have done.

    I thought the setting was nicely realized and the tech was cool. I found myself thinking of the difficulty in creating sci-fi movies in the sense that you need to create a nicely self-contained and sensible universe as an extra step to creating a good movie, which seems to be the genre's downfall for me recently.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Dear God. Did someone drag "The Beaver" with Crazy Mel into this discussion now?
    It's announced that he will be playing the villain in The Expendables 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Carlyle or however-you-spell-it encrypted it that way when he wrote it at his desk. He had the option to set it as incapacitate vs. lethal and chose lethal. I assumed if you tried to extract it without a proper code it kills the vessel as a form of copyright protection. Let's hope the RIAA and MPAA don't get any ideas.
    Ah, gotcha. I remember that now that you mention it.

    I guess it should be assumed that Caryle wasn't impacted at all by that change (either incapacitate or lethal)? i.e., it only applied if someone other than Carlyle was disseminating it?


    I thought the movie was very average, its message heavy handed and lacking nuance, storyline old as time, ultimately unsatisfying. The medbay concept seemed incredibly contrived (there didn't seem to be a reason for their scarcity other than a tiring "RICH PEOPLE ARE MEAN BOOHOO" cliche) and characters did things because "movie." Huge step down from D9. Thought Matt Damon was good but Jodie was shockingly terrible and wooden, but since the rest of the movie was written that way I don't know what she could have done.
    Her part really was kind of thin; she didn't have a lot of stuff to play with.

    I thought the setting was nicely realized and the tech was cool. I found myself thinking of the difficulty in creating sci-fi movies in the sense that you need to create a nicely self-contained and sensible universe as an extra step to creating a good movie, which seems to be the genre's downfall for me recently.
    Oblivion's scout outposts were kind of cool, but the rest of the world seemed very empty.

    My mind has already moved on to Ender's Game this fall. I never read the book, despite being aware of it for years and years. Wonder how the adaptation will be.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

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