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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    Perhaps, due to Ledger's untimely tragic death, people are subconsciously glorifying him, his role and the movie???
    I sort of expected that this was true, because it really does happen all the time. But I found that both Ledger's performance and the film itself exceeded my expectations. It's probably the best superhero movie I've ever seen, even if I count Unbreakable, which may or may not count.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dana View Post
    I did not like Heath Ledger at all, and I was sure this movie was going to be lame.

    Perhaps that is why I enjoyed it so much.. I wasn't expecting to be impressed.

    *notice the "did". I am a convert.
    I agree. I cannot think of a role I enjoyed Ledger in before this movie, even his inexplicably (to me) nominated performance in Brokeback Mountain. When everyone started saying how great he was in this, I assumed that CaptainChick's theory explained it. But he was truly great in this, and also unrecognizable. If I saw this movie with no advance knowledge of who was playing the Joker, I could have sat there for days without answering "Heath Ledger".

    As for the Christian Bale allegations, it's starting to look like a shakedown. I read that he's been estranged from his mother ever since she divorced his father and made him choose between them. The mother and sister showed up uninvited, and apparently more heated words were exchanged than shoves.
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    In some ways The Dark Knight was excellent.

    Easily a quality movie to see because Batman and The Joker and the entire cast are intense and make the movie fantastic especially with the acting, special effects, and cinematography. I loved the way this interpretation progressed. Though I think what I most dislike only Maggie was given credible female presence and it wasn't enough. And that The Joker wasn't true chaotic, lawful chaotic maybe but truly chaotic he'd not be so predictable. The scenes where Batman had to choose reminded me of Spiderman and The Goblin scene, what did batman value more.

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    I am not really one for superhero movies (although I did enjoy Iron Man), and I can't remember whether I saw Batman Begins, so I was a little adrift for maybe the first hour or so, but once it got into it, it was actually really enjoyable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen View Post
    I'm gelus. I will likely go see it next week. Tried to get tickets for IMAX and they were sold out a week in advance.
    Did you see it on IMAX? Here's the nuts & bolts Entire opening scene shot on IMAX cameras.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    I think a lot of people who die young in the entertainment industry have a kind of narrative built up around them about how talented they were.
    I did not see Brokeback Mt but I know he had two strikes before it. That Oscar nod made him relevent, otherwise no way would WB had called after Damon opted out of the role. I actually wonder how far down the list he was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    The publicists have their work cut out for them. Most people don't know Bane...They also won't have the crutch that Batman Begins had, where the villains didn't matter as much because it was a genesis story.
    I think the "crutch" was the Batman franchise itself. If you go back over the boxoffice records, starting in '89, the first three Batman movies broke the record for highest opening w/e box office receipts at the time of their release. The record again just broken on the 6th installment. Of course they'll have a big name as a villian but people are going to see Batman, even if they create a new character.

    Scarecrow may be a pretty good bet. Bane also has high odds. The Eartha Kitt rendition of Catwoman would fit nicely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    We should be asking what the concept of the next film is going to be, because without knowing that, we can't pick a villain that makes sense.
    So... What is the plot focus and the abstract theme of the third film going to be?
    Too soon to tell. I wouldn't be surprised if Nolan directs a couple of films before he does another Batman, though I'm sure WB would like for him to come in w/a few ideas to pitch Monday morning.

    I think the theme of destruction of society will be brought up again as it was in the past two. External on the first, from w/in on the last one.

    **SPOILER ALERT**
    It's kinda set up as Batman as the redeemer. What would he feel in this role?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    And what color will it be? Anyone notice that Batman Begins had a lot of yellow imagery, while The Dark Knight had a lot of blue imagery?
    I saw more purple and goldish brown and black in Batman Begins. Blue & black in Dark Knight. I imagine more blue/black but a heavier lean towards red early on in #3 and white towards the end. Save this post and see how dumb I look.

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    'Batman' star Bale arrested for attacking mother and sister - Yahoo! News

    The thing I don't understand is if Bale didn't assault his mother and sister- why would they lie about something like that?
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    This has been stated and covered in the "First 5 Minutes of The Dark Knight" thread.


    In response to your question: God knows... Maybe they don't like him and want to get a hold of some of his money.

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    This is a sort of mini-review I made in an e-mail to a friend...

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    I loved it, but I have a few minor things I would have done differently. I didn't see the first one, by the way. I also know nothing about the Batman comics at all.

    First, yah, Ledger was incredible. All the actors were great, but his character was so far removed from any kind of normal person and he did it so absolutely flawlessly that it just blew me away. It had so much subtlety in the lip licking and eye rolling and everything when he spoke. I bet his co-stars were scared shitless whenever he was in character. That said, I think the plot itself could have developed him a bit more, or at least push some of his actions/thoughts further. The scene with the boats could have been better. He said it was a social experiment, and I was hoping that the detonators didn't actually do anything and he just wanted to know if people would do it and then blow them all up anyway, as if he is just exploring a glitch in a game that has no effect on if the game can be beaten or not. But it ended up being what he actually said it was, which I don't think was nearly as cool as if he was just fucking with the world like a big toy. He did treat the world like that for the most part, but that scene fell just short of being mind blowingly orgasmic. I loved how he had no real background and made up stories about his past.

    Two-Face was cool, but I don't think they developed him enough, because he wasn't Two-Face for very long. I really hope they use him in the next movie as the main villain and explore him as Two-Face more, because that would kick ass (even though he's supposed to be dead). Harvey Dent was an interesting character, and he made Bruce Wayne more interesting. To me, Bruce Wayne seemed torn between being sort of jelous or maybe annoyed that Harvey Dent was dating Rachel and really liking his politics (or at least that they allow him to not be Batman anymore). I really hope they use that as the foundation for the next movie's plot.

    Most people seme to think this movie had more themes and ideas than most superhero movies. I think that is true, but I still think the themes in this movie could have been pushed further. It wasn't a theme based movie to me, it was just a really awesome action movie with some subtle themes. To really enjoy the themes, I feel like I'm overanalyzing it. They could have used the theme of hiding behind a mask and morality in much stronger ways where it was right at the front and centre of the plot and the scenes and everything. The characters all seem to have a different sense of morality, but they never totally duke it out as much as they could have. It could have been a very dark movie with dark themes and tragic heros eploring human anture, but instead it was a really kick-ass action movie with a few subtle themes.

    I loved the Joker's humour though... it was very dark. The magic trick was amazing. I love my humour to be jet black. If I don't feel like I'm a murderer for laughing at it, I'm not satisfied!
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    I saw it today. I really liked how the Joker kind of gives you a big ol' "fuck you" for wanting to know what made him that way.
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    I just saw it, and it was good!!!

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