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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    I feel differently myself. To me it was a movie about how sometimes things are so hugely coincidental that they cannot be simply brushed aside as coincidence. A man lost his faith to regain it through his personal interpretation of his wife's final words. How suddenly everything fit together for him, small became large, even though her words seemed so random and ludicrous. I loved the ending, it was about a choice, an attitude, a belief. If anything, everything about the plot was just a backdrop to that moment. That's what is so great about it, imo. What initially was ludicrous was not what was ludicrous after all.
    That's pretty much exactly what I thought of it. I think the theme is kind of encapsulated in this quote, which I just had to track down all over the internet:

    When you go into a managed forest you see a mass of tree trunks. Then at a certain point you look again. You realize they’re all in perfect rows. Clarity. Clarity of vision. What you’ve been looking at from the wrong angle and not seen at all. You labor, you sweat to see what you couldn’t see from that other perspective.

    That's The Edge talking about finding a creative groove, but I really think it's applicable to Signs in a philosophical sense. The realization that the trees are in perfect rows is what happens at the end of the movie, and I think that's why it's not a contrived or lazy ending.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    The realization that the trees are in perfect rows is what happens at the end of the movie, and I think that's why it's not a contrived or lazy ending.
    Yes, you've captured the essence of what I want to say beautifully with that. Glad you took the time to dig that quote up.
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    I'm going to watch this...ironically.

    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    I'm going to watch this...ironically.

    Brave soul.

    Seriously, let us know what your thoughts are on it when you get to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    You're not wrong. The wolves in the Twilight movies aren't that great. It's a shame too, because the VFX house that did the wolves is usually top notch.
    They also did that silly dragon thing in Mirror, Mirror, though to be fair, it was mostly a poor (or just bizarre) concept that was otherwise well-animated. I think some of Phil Tippett's best work post-Jurassic Park was in The Spiderwick Chronicles. IIRC, I think they worked on the creature voiced by Seth Rogen and the troll.

    There was also a CG Nick Nolte.



    The difference between that and the real Nick Nolte is seamless.

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    Just read this:

    Said Rolling Stone critic Peter Travers: “ 'After Earth' merits comparison with 2000's ‘Battlefield Earth,’ John Travolta's godawful film tribute to the sci-fi novel by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.”

    oh nooooooo

    now I have to watch 'Battlefied Earth' again to see which truly merits the title of worst sci-fi flick ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaceBaby View Post
    Just read this:

    Said Rolling Stone critic Peter Travers: “ 'After Earth' merits comparison with 2000's ‘Battlefield Earth,’ John Travolta's godawful film tribute to the sci-fi novel by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.”

    oh nooooooo
    Yeah, it's pretty much a bloodbath this weekend; the critics are relentless.

    "Compared to the wackadoo ramblings of The Happening or the stark-raving silliness of Lady in the Water, this film is a more generic failure..." -- critic Ethan Alter, "Television Without Pity"

    Looks like AE is sitting at 12% on RT right now. (11 pro, 73 against)
    Now You See It hasn't fared well either... it's dropped to 45%. Pretty soon it'll hit the Total Recall remake...

    now I have to watch 'Battlefied Earth' again to see which truly merits the title of worst sci-fi flick ever.
    I've never seen it. I'm scared, mama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Poriferan View Post
    Well, you've really missed something, sister! The best part for me is that when I saw it, I did not yet know about it. I assumed it couldn't possibly be good, but did not know of its reputation. I was sincerely at a loss after the movie ended. Good thing it happened to just be on TV.
    Now I'm curious. What's so bad about Highlander 2?

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    I didn't think Lady in the Water was that bad, but The Happening, on the other hand...was worse than The Village. And The Last Airbender at least had nice scenery going for it, and the most convincing CG fire of its day...but other than that, it was crap. And the dialogue made George Lucas look like Shakespeare.

    M. Night has never been a bad director, though sometimes his home video style of shooting doesn't work, but the main problem is that he doesn't get others to polish his scripts for him, even when his movies are more ambitious in scope.

    But at least he doesn't try to hammer in the twist ending as much as he used to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Now I'm curious. What's so bad about Highlander 2?
    It was just a cheap robot Fortran knockoff of the first @highlander, who is never around when you need him. And it's not water-resistant either.
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