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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    When the male ideal is about being adventurous and ambitious, and the female ideal is about being skinny, something's wrong.
    And, in "Brave" she was the male ideal, and at first it went over badly. Seems not a lot has changed in some corners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    That's a different conversation. Probably a worthy one too, but the one here is that she was fine the way she was before, so why amp it up? She wasn't a "classic" beauty on the outside, but she was never supposed to be about her looks or even about her being a girl (other than how she "failed" at being one). That was the point of the movie, and why I think it's bugging some people.
    *wakes back up*

    Hahaha! You think Disney believes in the shit they peddle?

    M-O-N-E-Y. Replaces M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E.

    All that matters.

    In the redesign, she has a firmer and more glamorous figure along with refined features designed to be striking.
    Which means, you're more likely to SEE her.

    More likely to see=more likely to BUY.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    When the male ideal is about being adventurous and ambitious, and the female ideal is about being skinny, something's wrong.
    I know! It's fucked up, isn't it?
    But I'll be damned if it doesn't move units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    *wakes back up*

    Hahaha! You think Disney believes in the shit they peddle?

    M-O-N-E-Y. Replaces M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E.

    All that matters.

    In the redesign, she has a firmer and more glamorous figure along with refined features designed to be striking.
    Which means, you're more likely to SEE her.

    More likely to see=more likely to BUY.
    And, this takes away from why people have a reason to be annoyed how? It's not news. Besides, it's not like they went BROKE with her the way she was before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    And, in "Brave" she was the male ideal.
    Exactly. What kind of shitty princess is that? Let's strip all that away and replace it with pretty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Exactly. What kind of shitty princess is that? Let's strip all that away and replace it with pretty.
    Don't forget the dress. My god, don't ever forget the dress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by digesthisickness View Post
    And, this takes away from why people have a reason to be annoyed how? It's not news. Besides, it's not like they went BROKE with her the way she was before.
    What annoys me is that people are actually...surprised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    *wakes back up*

    Hahaha! You think Disney believes in the shit they peddle?

    M-O-N-E-Y. Replaces M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E.

    All that matters.

    In the redesign, she has a firmer and more glamorous figure along with refined features designed to be striking.
    Which means, you're more likely to SEE her.

    More likely to see=more likely to BUY.



    I know! It's fucked up, isn't it?
    But I'll be damned if it doesn't move units.

    I actually tend to agree with you on this point, one of the reasons I reject Disney almost automatically is because of this, because what they're doing is so glaringly commercial and the intent is so clear to me to not be one that is authentic or genuine (as it once was 100 years ago when Steamboat Mickey came upon the scene; I do think it was somebody's ideals once, their dream and something creative...)

    But so was Santa Monica pier once, apparently, it was the end of route 66, it once stood for something, and to some people it still does, the buskers and street performers, but really you see a lot more local business and soul in Venice Beach and a lot more of emphasis on money and commercialism on the Santa Monica Pier and 3rd Street Prominade than you do on the Venice Beach walk.

    When I'm in Venice Beach I still feel like I could be back in Venice in the 1960s, and when I'm on the Santa Monica pier, I feel like I could be in an American Express commercial.

    For that reason though I love Santa Monica as a clean, green city, I actually prefer Venice for its soul and overall intent to not be a hollow clanging gong of corporate shills.

    I'm totally off topic here, but Disney is kind of like Santa Monica. It has a lot of money, and good things obviously come of it, but the intent there is clearly money and commercialism.

    And Venice beach is more like an independent film.

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    Honestly, I think that drawing with all of them had the potential to be so badass. Had they kept them all the way they were when kids fell in love with them, personality enhanced instead, it could have been powerful and beautiful. I prefer this one:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    I actually tend to agree with you on this point, one of the reasons I reject Disney...
    Okay, that's all I read.

    But yeah. Can't turn my back on my boys, The Avengers.
    Seriously. I have the toothbrush and everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    What annoys me is that people are actually...surprised.
    No, they're not. At all. If anything it's more, "WTF... AGAIN??" And, letting Disney know where they stand.
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