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    ^My man knows what's up. The extraction on Kronos was the highpoint. All downhill after.

    While we are on the topic of anachronisms: Did Carol Marcus ever have that banging of a body?
    Not complaining...just saying. Girl got good genes.


    Never thought I'd say that in a sentence ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    Just got back from an IMAX 3D presentation.
    Not as good as Part I. Not even close.

    This series went from "Star Trek for Dummies" to "Michael Bay's Star Trek" in less than a movie. Sad.

    I especially did not like the not-so-subtle nods (in fact, it borders on shameless plagiarism) of another classic Star Trek movie (Note: Not the one with V'Ger or the whales). The only redeeming factor was Benedict Cumberbatch's John Harrison (that was his name, right?) going Hulk Smash on some pesky Klingons in a chaotic set piece (Note: I say "chaotic" because there is no sense of geography, just like a Michael Bay movie). One thing I gotta say about that John Harrison guy: Bro, you've got some serious anger issues. Like, drink some Green Tea and stuff.

    Anyway...

    Of every candidate, Disney chose this JJ Abrams douche to direct Star Wars?
    On release day I suspect I will be at home clipping my toe nails.
    I just came back from watching this movie. You think it's a "nod" to Wrath. You think it's a ripoff of Wrath.

    Is this one of the IMDB kiddie forums, or is this TypoC?

    It seems as if you think you are mature enough to see through Abrams' gimmick in this movie. But I'm afraid that you're not yet mature enough to see that it's no gimmick. And it's hardly plagiarism, because
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    ^My man knows what's up. The extraction on Kronos was the highpoint. All downhill after.

    While we are on the topic of anachronisms: Did Carol Marcus ever have that banging of a body?
    Not complaining...just saying. Girl got good genes.




    Never thought I'd say that in a sentence ever.
    So the part that WAS a ripoff of a different movie, you thought was badass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I just came back from watching this movie. You think it's a "nod" to Wrath. You think it's a ripoff of Wrath.

    Is this one of the IMDB kiddie forums, or is this TypoC?

    It seems as if you think you are mature enough to see through Abrams' gimmick in this movie. But I'm afraid that you're not yet mature enough to see that it's no gimmick. And it's hardly plagiarism, because
    Well, gee. Glad you liked it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    So the part that WAS a ripoff of a different movie, you thought was badass.
    As an individual moment, yes. It was shockingly brutal for a PG-13 movie.
    Balls out, baby. Balls out.

    Edit: Read this review...Nordling takes the words right out of my mouth:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/62468

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    I'd give it a positive rating, because I found it enjoyable, but I think I liked the 2009 version better.

    Think about what happened:


    I was moved in spots but more by what I brought to the movie than the movie itself.

    Also, lots of trek trivia points (old series, although I think the Section 31 is a ref from DSN) which might either please or annoy fans. Finally the banter was funny in spots but just too scripted, it didn't feel organic sometimes. At least they meta'ed it once in a while so that we knew they knew it was too predictable too.

    Cumberbatch was good. I found him intimidating, he carried himself well

    It was also nice to Spock be a badass and go a few rounds.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    Edit: Read this review...Nordling takes the words right out of my mouth:
    Generally, I do agree with those criticisms... most of all, with the exposition on the Scene Not To Be Named
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I'd give it a positive rating, because I found it enjoyable, but I think I liked the 2009 version better.
    Same here; I much preferred the 2009 version.
    I didn't hate Darkness, but found it derivative and ultimately insulting.

    After all, a 2001 Wrath of Khan marathon on Spike TV is what made me a fan of Trek.
    It was among the things that helped me cope through the horror of 9/11.

    Cumberbatch was good. I found him intimidating, he carried himself well
    The major redeeming factor was the always reliable Cumberbatch.
    He was a fantastic and genuinely menacing heavy, dare I say one of the best ST villains of all time.

    While he (and the "John Harrison" character) belongs in a better movie, Darkness will catapult him to the A-list where he belongs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I'd give it a positive rating, because I found it enjoyable, but I think I liked the 2009 version better.

    Think about what happened:


    I was moved in spots but more by what I brought to the movie than the movie itself.

    Also, lots of trek trivia points (old series, although I think the Section 31 is a ref from DSN) which might either please or annoy fans. Finally the banter was funny in spots but just too scripted, it didn't feel organic sometimes. At least they meta'ed it once in a while so that we knew they knew it was too predictable too.

    Cumberbatch was good. I found him intimidating, he carried himself well

    It was also nice to Spock be a badass and go a few rounds.



    Generally, I do agree with those criticisms... most of all, with the exposition on the Scene Not To Be Named
    Pick it apart, and then come up with a better idea for a movie. You can't.

    However, I'm not disagreeing with most of the little nitpickings. But I don't let some continuity errors spoil the movie for me. Or Kirk saying "I'm speaking to the half-human part of you." Huh?

    I do disagree with this nitpicking:



    because that's the aspect of the movie that makes some of the other nitpickings make sense, for example:



    And besides:

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    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson
    “Culture?” says Paul McCartney. “This isn't culture. It's just a good laugh.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    Same here; I much preferred the 2009 version.
    I didn't hate Darkness, but found it derivative and ultimately insulting.

    After all, a 2001 Wrath of Khan marathon on Spike TV is what made me a fan of Trek.
    It was among the things that helped me cope through the horror of 9/11.



    The major redeeming factor was the always reliable Cumberbatch.
    He was a fantastic and genuinely menacing heavy, dare I say one of the best ST villains of all time.

    While he (and the "John Harrison" character) belongs in a better movie, Darkness will catapult him to the A-list where he belongs.
    How is it derivative?
    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson
    “Culture?” says Paul McCartney. “This isn't culture. It's just a good laugh.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    How is it derivative?
    ...Seriously? I won't even get into specifics or the obvious.

    -One of the most blatant and central themes of Darkness--that would be vengeance--had been beaten to death in the franchise long before this movie was even in development.

    -Or how about the emergence of a "HOLY-SHIT-YOUR-PANTS" size vessel that absolutely outclasses the Enterprise and is magically destroyed by some cheap, seen-it-from-a-mile-away macguffin? Remember that steaming turd Nemesis? Yeah, well that movie actually managed to pull it off with more sophistication than the last two.

    And that is DEFINITELY saying something.

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