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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Devil in the Dark's one of my favorites too, despite the monster looking like a giant glob of pepperoni and cheese. still, considering the effects quality at the time, that's okay. I think it was a thoughtful, layered episode; those are the best of the old series, where it's dealing with social issues (like two sides to every story sometimes leading to conflict, and how we can negotiate and serve both sides if we care to listen), or just stories that focus on what it means to be human.

    Then on occasion, we get something crazy like the Yanks vs <whatever they were>, and a US flag with Kirk waxing patriotically poetic... yjkes. But even that is entertaining in its own way. When I was older, I liked more of the drama of TNG, and then after I had been been invested in TNG for some time, it started to get bland, boring, predictable, kind of toothless; and I missed TOS. Don't get me wrong, Patrick Stewart is an excellent actor, and there were some nice dramatic episodes (like The Most Toys with Saul Rubinek, or The Inner Light), but there was a rawness to TOS that is still appealing.

    I read all the James Blish adaptations of TOS when I was probably twelve or so, and years later, that one scene where a female Yeoman is turned into a geometric shape and crushed to death stays with me. That was horrific.
    I just recalled, those aliens called themselves the Kelvin, and they were from the Andromeda galaxy. They are more like what I would expect from intelligent aliens - not caring a single whit about humankind.
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    I liked it a lot-- I don't care what you people say. I'm a big Star Trek fan, but not really of TOS-- so these last two movies have been great for me to actually enjoy TOS characters. I've always liked the TOS characters actually, but I think having grown up with TNG, TOS has always just seemed so low-tech and campy to me, that I couldn't really get into it. Yeah, the Enterprise seemed way too technologically advanced to be set in TOS time (compared to the TV show and older TOS movies) but whatever, I like it better that way, so there. I also really enjoyed the nods to "another Star Trek film." I liked the twist on it.

    The only things I didn't like about this movie were


    and



    Those are pretty minor complaints though. Overall, I say well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle View Post
    I liked it a lot-- I don't care what you people say. I'm a big Star Trek fan, but not really of TOS-- so these last two movies have been great for me to actually enjoy TOS characters. I've always liked the TOS characters actually, but I think having grown up with TNG, TOS has always just seemed so low-tech and campy to me, that I couldn't really get into it. Yeah, the Enterprise seemed way too technologically advanced to be set in TOS time (compared to the TV show and older TOS movies) but whatever, I like it better that way, so there. I also really enjoyed the nods to "another Star Trek film." I liked the twist on it.
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    The only things I didn't like about this movie were


    and



    Those are pretty minor complaints though. Overall, I say well done.
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    Here is a very unsympathetic review of STID. I obviously don't agree with it. And Rich Evans (the guy sitting on the table) gives a stuttering plot synopsis which is totally off-the-wall. I think their inability to understand the plot explains this bad review.

    http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-th...into-darkness/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Here is a very unsympathetic review of STID. I obviously don't agree with it. And Rich Evans (the guy sitting on the table) gives a stuttering plot synopsis which is totally off-the-wall. I think their inability to understand the plot explains this bad review.

    http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-th...into-darkness/
    Is this really a 45 minute review? (I can't see the vid right now, just read what little is on the page.)

    You must be dedicated, to watch 45 minutes of criticism you disagree with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Is this really a 45 minute review? (I can't see the vid right now, just read what little is on the page.)

    You must be dedicated, to watch 45 minutes of criticism you disagree with.
    Actually, I stopped the vid at the 20 minute mark, about in the middle of Rich Evans' mangled plot synopsis. I'll finish watching it later. I have something more important to do (a free $80 chip to play at an online casino).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquarelle View Post
    The only things I didn't like about this movie were


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Actually, I stopped the vid at the 20 minute mark, about in the middle of Rich Evans' mangled plot synopsis. I'll finish watching it later. I have something more important to do (a free $80 chip to play at an online casino).
    Heck, that would trump even a GOOD Trek review!
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    They did bring up one good point in the review:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    They did bring up one good point in the review:



    You know, I just had a hard time wondering where the number 72 came from. Isn't that an odd number? Why would a starship need 72 of anything? You think that might have run a bell in someone's head? Especially if they were, well, in the know about Harrison? I'm so confused. I need to watch the movie again, just to get the details right for the background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post


    You know, I just had a hard time wondering where the number 72 came from. Isn't that an odd number? Why would a starship need 72 of anything? You think that might have run a bell in someone's head? Especially if they were, well, in the know about Harrison? I'm so confused. I need to watch the movie again, just to get the details right for the background.
    You mean, where did they get the number 72 in the first place? I didn't consider it, but really, it's up to Kirk to question it since they are being loaded onto his starship, and he conveniently didn't question anything.

    And there was also this:

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