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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post


    Fuckin' hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    "Internet yahoo", huh? C'mon, you can do better.

    You went wrong as soon as you started to assume what other people would think about the meme with a different actor. It's just an image with text over it. Quit assuming that it's deeper than that; memes rarely are.

    When viewing that image (the original, not the text taken out of context) the first thing that comes to mind for me is Smith and Goldblum sitting in the fighter in the mothership chomping on cigars because of how their speech changes. You could replace Smith with Goldblum and the meme would be fucking identical (aside from the fact that it's parodying Smith's line). Quit seeing racism where there isn't any. It gives people headaches.

    It's a matter of perception. Of course you can see racism wherever the hell you please, but don't make assumptions about other's motives or thoughts. It's annoying.
    Just to continue on with the South Park references, I'm starting to feel like Chef at the end of that one episode where he gets all upset over wanting to change the official South Park flag, because it depicts white townspeople lynching a black person. After spending the whole episode crusading for changing the flag, one of the boys finally makes him realize that none of the kids care because they genuinely see no difference between the white figures and the black one. He ends up letting it go because there's a greater victory that's already been won.

    So, guys, I think I've learned something today. While there's no doubts in my mind that the meme is racist or at the very least is successful because it plays on some negative stereotypes. If most of the people in this thread (including @Bamboo and @EffEmDoubleyou, whom I respect as two of the more thoughtful people on this forum), look at the meme and can't get it cause they see no real difference between Will Smith and Tom Cruise, then it ain't my place to drag up what's not in the minds of the people. I know I'm not wrong, but perhaps there's no harm in conceding the point in this particular case. Shine on you crazy, post-racial diamonds, shine on.

    @Marmotini, @EJCC--what are ya'lls thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    Let's do it this way: imagine instead of Will Smith in that role, it was Tom Cruise. Then imagine the Welcome to Earf meme came out. Nobody would find it funny or memorable. They'd know that Tom Cruise doesn't talk like that, and if he did it was just because he had a cigar in his mouth. People don't generally make jokes about the way people talk with cigars in their mouths because it's not inherently funny.
    It would work with Adam Sandler if he had played Smith's role in the film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    It would work with Adam Sandler if he had played Smith's role in the film.
    Good point and one I hadn't considered.

    I question, however, whether the meme would have been made in the first place if it had been Adam Sandler, or if it would have become so ubiquitous. Especially given that without Sandler ever actually saying the line, the joke would have been close to the exercise in meta-reading that FMW described, and therefore have less of an audience to relate to it. Otoh, the floor is pretty low for racial humor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    Token black member chiming in.

    I did not find the meme offensive at all.
    Keep yer helmets on, kids.

    Oh, and Will Smith is a cunt.
    I wish those aliens had killed his black ass.
    Fascinating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    It would work with Adam Sandler if he had played Smith's role in the film.
    If it was Adam Sandler I would totally be rooting for the aliens.
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    It wasn't necessarily racist, but since it could reasonably interpreted as being so (Wind-up provided good arguments), you should apologize and learn the lesson.

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    Looks like I missed a real fun conversation here.


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    11 pages over this crap? Unbelievable. In that time you could have all raised some money for some starving Africans if anyone actually gave a fuck about racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Il Morto Che Parla View Post
    11 pages over this crap? Unbelievable. In that time you could have all raised some money for some starving Africans if anyone actually gave a fuck about racism.
    Duh, Africans don't starve because they are black.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Duh, Africans don't starve because they are black.







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    Sure if you want to go down that route, nobody talks with an accent because they are black.

    But anyway I don't want to be part of this crapfest thread so I retire now. With one last message of equality, love and peace xxx



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