Re: Peacebaby's thread on the opposite side of this topic, it has never been the case for me that I disliked a movie at first but then started to see its good points.
I did however get caught up in the excitement over Independence Day. I awaited this movie with high expectations, loved every minute of my first, second, third, fourth viewing. Now for some reason I can't stand that movie. I hate everything about it. I own the VHS version and now I regret wasting my money. I want to blow that tape up with an H-bomb, and then spread its atomized components throughout the galaxy. I hate it even more than George Lucas hates the original undigitized version of the Star Wars trilogy, and that's saying quite a bit.
I do however respect Independence Day for avoiding the trope of all the bad guys impotently falling to the ground just because the mother ship (or other evil source) blows up. For the latest example of this trope, The Avengers. Are the alien invaders remote controlled in that movie? Or did they suddenly just become severely depressed and lose interest in living? If they are remote controlled, then how did this work? Was it related to some god-like powers beyond all human compression? If they are god-like, then how were they so easily defeated by us uncomprehending humans? Moreover, how did Ironman survive the rigorous vacuum of outer space? Is his suit air-tight like a space suit? Then how does he breathe? And what force drew him back to Earth, since he was obviously beyond the reach of Earth's gravitational field at that point in the movie?
As for ID4: How did the African natives defeat their own alien ship problem? Did they gang up and chuck spears into the alien battleship's 'primary weapon' as soon as the weapon hatch opened up? And if so, how did they know to do this, as they had no ability to receive the telegraphed instruction manual on "how to defeat the alien invaders" that was sent out by the Americans? Did the African ship self-destruct in a fit of despair over losing its mother ship? Then why didn't the other alien ships around the world do this, but had to be defeated through the kamikaze tactic? And where did other countries get the nuclear capability to use this tactic, particularly unarmed Japan where they undoubtedly would have had thousands of volunteers rushing to go out in a blaze of glory to save the motherland?
But these aren't reasons to hate ID4, they are only excuses to hate it. I hate it for its lame characters played by Goldblum and Fierstein (the latter thankfully died off early in the movie, which is a point in its favor). Will Smith did a fine acting job portraying himself, as he does in all his movies, although I doubt that even Will could defeat one of those aliens simply by punching it in its - is that a face? - area. Bill Pullman rose to the task and gave a fine, rousing patriotic speech at the end, the sort of thing we'd all like to see from our presidents at least occasionally. And ID4 did influence the creation of one of the funniest pictures I've seen in all my time on the internet: