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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    The Jonah Hill scene should never have been filmed.
    idk. It seems like even the slavers were depicted as only human, and showing them as incompetent derps opened them up to that sort of judgment.

    Unless you're specifically talking about Jonah Hill. In which case, yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton Moore View Post
    Spike Lee says he won't see this film because of the racial content. comments?
    Someone ought to whip some sense into him.

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    Good, but not a movie I'd rewatch. Based on the hype, I was expecting more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    Django: ISTP 8w7>6w5>3w4 Sx/Sp
    Dr. Schultz: ENTP 7w6>3w2>8w9 Sp/So
    Brunhilde: ISFP 9w8>6w7>2w3 Sx/Sp
    Calvin: ESTP 7w?>3w2>8w7 So/Sx
    Steven: ESTJ 6w5>8w7>2w3 So/Sp
    Elf typed the characters in the Django Unchained thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Haha Django ISTP 8w7!?

    Well, he was a survivor, had lightning-fast instincts, and deadly precision in the hunt; slaughtering all resistence like animals!

    He was very independent and good at finding efficient solutions to problems as well, so the combined skill and forcefullness seem to be very much in line with ISTP 8w7.

    Django was a true rebel gangster!

    Justice was done by his hand to all those white devils and their sadistic torture schemes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanton Moore View Post
    Spike Lee says he won't see this film because of the racial content. comments?
    Yeah, like “African American” should've been used instead of the n-word in all the dialogue. People who express this view about Tarantino and/or Django are somewhat on the other side of the same coin as white racists and/or those who deny the dark side of America’s past. And it’s ironic that some critics who panned this movie as exploitation likely consider Gone with the Wind, which idealized slavery and the old South, a great classic film. Tarantino said he wanted to do a movie that dealt with American’s horrible past without making it a “big issue” movie. It’s deliberately hyperbolic and draws from pulp fiction dime novels of that era to great effect. Just about all of Tarantino’s films could be titled “Pulp Fiction”. He’s turned it into a cinematic art form. Not that he was the first ever to do so, but he’s done it as distinctly and brilliantly as his idol Sergio Leone did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    Someone ought to whip some sense into him.
    Not cool, man. Not cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    Good, but not a movie I'd rewatch. Based on the hype, I was expecting more.
    Same response here. All of Tarantino's movies are typically above average, but this is probably at the lower end of Tarantino's movies. Mostly that comes from things like (1) breaking the climax into two pieces, (2) cutting a lot of the character-oriented dialogue so that few characters seem like real people, (3) weird or redundant twists that seem unnecessary, like what happens when they sign the receipt for Broomhilda, and (4) weird production-oriented stuff, like the time someone gets shot and goes flying in the wrong direction, jarring you out of the movie.

    But damn, Jamie Foxx looked cool and was pretty bad-ass when duded up as a black slaver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Same response here. All of Tarantino's movies are typically above average, but this is probably at the lower end of Tarantino's movies.
    Yep.

    Mostly that comes from things like (1) breaking the climax into two pieces,
    What do you mean?

    (2) cutting a lot of the character-oriented dialogue so that few characters seem like real people,
    I hate when the movies are overly focused on the background events - it gets predictable quickly.

    (3) weird or redundant twists that seem unnecessary, like what happens when they sign the receipt for Broomhilda, and
    Oh, that scene was unbelievable. The guy who seemed fairly reasonable basically got himself killed because he didn't want to handshake a person he hated.

    I also found the Broomhilda legend to be extremely cheesy. "Oh, in the legend Broomhilda got rescued by Siegfried, so you are supposed to be her Siegfried, now everything makes sense!"

    (4) weird production-oriented stuff, like the time someone gets shot and goes flying in the wrong direction, jarring you out of the movie.
    Yeah, that was a pretty commercial move.

    But damn, Jamie Foxx looked cool and was pretty bad-ass when duded up as a black slaver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasofy View Post
    What do you mean?
    Climcatic gunfight, half the baddies are killed. Plot is not resolved.
    Hero is sent away. Hero escapes.
    Hero comes back and kills everyone else.
    Supposed to be a climax, but it was just mop-up.

    Since the plot had diminishing tension, it needed to be a climax in some other way... but it wasn't.

    (Compare to Pulp Fiction... one of the lead characters is actually killed in the middle of the movie, but the scenes are arranged dramatically in terms of character arc, so tension continues.)

    Django is pretty straightforward, with an occasional flashback.

    I hate when the movies are overly focused on the background events - it gets predictable quickly.
    Tarantino won an oscar for his screenplay, but I don't think it's the screenplay that was in the movie; he gutted his screenplay, which is scary since the movie ran about 2:45. Many scenes between characters (especially Stephen and Django) were excised.

    Oh, that scene was unbelievable. The guy who seemed fairly reasonable basically got himself killed because he didn't want to handshake a person he hated.
    Yeah... and in a way that we already saw earlier in the movie.

    I also found the Broomhilda legend to be extremely cheesy. "Oh, in the legend Broomhilda got rescued by Siegfried, so you are supposed to be her Siegfried, now everything makes sense!"
    Yup. I'm hoping the screenplay did more with that. In the movie, it was kind of thin.

    Yeah, that was a pretty commercial move.
    Another blunder: The cutscene with the KKK riders cutting eyeholes in their sacks -- it's edited poorly and I saw at least one published review thinking it was part of the main time flow and not understanding it... and I remember needing about ten seconds to decide it was a flashback.

    Just not up to Tarantino's standards. I don't remember Kill Bill having any major editing gaffs like that, despite all the flashbacks and time/scene cuts.
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