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    Not really surpassed per se, as Bathory was part of first wave black metal, which is pretty different from second wave, which is the 'typical' black metal sound (early Burzum/Satyricon/Enslaved/etc.). They are both great in their own ways.

    I think it's pretty annoying that people who think metal (extreme metal in particular) isn't music, they don't realize the talent it takes to properly do various styles of harsh vocals (as in without wrecking your voice and being consistent in each range, some of them have been doing vocals like that for 20+ years and even sound better than ever at this point), use non-major scale melodies (cause you know, anything other than major scale isn't 'real melody' according to them), have songs longer than 3-4 minutes (even up to 10-20 minutes or longer) without typical verse/chorus structure that aren't super predictable and even use non-3/4 or 4/4 time that requires an attention span greater than a goldfish to understand, and so on. Complex/minimalistic structure != no structure. My roommate in college who was like this even said it's not possible for the musicians to remember how to play everything live, like music from bands like Suffocation, Necrophagist, and Augury, that was so laughable cause they are all pretty much flawless live.

    Stuff like this would be the antithesis of music to people like that.

    http://www.myspace.com/ulcerate
    http://www.myspace.com/defeatedsanity
    http://www.myspace.com/theamenta
    http://www.myspace.com/spawnofpossession
    http://www.myspace.com/gaza (this is more grindcore-ish but fits with the others in being non-music lol)
    Deathspell Omega (especially on Fas - Ite, Maledicti, in Ignem Aeternum, that's their most chaotic/obscure one)

    And then of course there's the more atmospheric stuff that's also 'not music' like these.

    http://www.myspace.com/WorshipDoom
    http://www.myspace.com/evoken
    sunn O)))
    Nortt
    http://www.myspace.com/esotericuk
    http://www.myspace.com/urnaproject
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    Totally not music!!!






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    @_eric_ You have great taste in death metal

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    no its a mineral
    *yodelling* AAAaaaaAAaaiiiiiiayyyyyyyy


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    Hell to the fucking YES it is!!!
    "The man who is swimming against the stream knows the strength of it."
    ― Woodrow Wilson

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    *injects life into thread with Cryptopsy video of insane drumming*


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    In my opinion, music is anything the listener decides to interpret as music OR anything a musician makes with the intent of it being music. All in perception.

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    Of course it is. Whether you like it personally or not is irrelevant.

    Basically what @Folderol said.
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    It may be skillfully produced noise, but I wouldn't call that music. "Music" by my definition has some kind of harmony and pleasant sound to it. Preferably with a good beat that makes me want to move. I do consider rap music for all of these reasons.

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