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    Quote Originally Posted by xisnotx View Post
    Can't we just define music as a series of stimuli producing effects intended to produce a signal to the psyche by means of a persons auditory organs and be done with it?

    Why complicate things?
    Thats not logic...whats wrong with you
    Take what I say with a grain of salt, because that's all it is compared to the ocean of complexity when it comes to actions and real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    Perhaps because certain genres of "music" lack melody.
    Ha, like a speech...which would qualify under my definition but is definitely not music.

    How about "anything that is honestly intended to be understood as music by another human being" is music.

    Even if you end up not understanding it. The key is the intention (and the honesty of intention).

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    And could it still logically be considered music
    This is the only part of the OP interesting to me.

    Could it, exclamation mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Within View Post
    This is the only part of the OP interesting to me.

    Could it, exclamation mark.
    Um...that's what I've been trying to get at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    Same with Bathory, I take it?
    Ok, based on what I found on you tube, that is definitely not black metal. Or good. Lol one song kinda sounded like a punk band trying to cover death metal...which is...um, unique...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    Metallica is not metal. I'm talking about screeching or growling into the microphone.
    Listen to my link. Growling, yes it's in there but all things considered, it's a pretty good song, no?

    It's not fair to lump metal in with the argument that rap isn't music. Metal bands play all their instruments the same way any band does. A lot of it is very technical musically as well. Most of your real metal (I'm not talking about that crap you hear on the radio) is rooted in classical music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    Um...that's what I've been trying to get at.
    there is shit in all genres. Not all metal is shit, not all rap is shit. But there is shit out there. And some people like shit...either because they don't have the auditory perception to understand it's shit, or because they know someone in the band...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalmommy View Post
    Ok, based on what I found on you tube, that is definitely not black metal. Or good. Lol one song kinda sounded like a punk band trying to cover death metal...which is...um, unique...?
    Interesting, because Bathory is widely considered the pioneer of black metal.

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    Since rap was brought up rap as a comparison...





    usually they will not only use tone but they also use the pauses, and speed as the "musical" part. Instead of frequency being tone like singing, frequency would be speed of the words when it comes to rap.
    Take what I say with a grain of salt, because that's all it is compared to the ocean of complexity when it comes to actions and real life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    Interesting, because Bathory is widely considered the pioneer of black metal.
    Well, it was a cursory search on you tube. Pioneer perhaps, but they've been far surpassed...guess I came along later in the metal game.

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