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    biggie biggie can't you seee
    sometimes you just hypnotize me


    ewnwrrrr nwwww
    every normal man must be tempted, at times,
    to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag,
    and begin slitting throats.
    h.l. mencken

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    What? Was my valiant defense of the artform not a good enough offering?

    And so long as you haven’t experienced this: to die and so to grow,
    you are only a troubled guest on the dark earth

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    Oy vey...

    apparently I have to do everything myself...






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    Oh shit, I guess I forgot to remove the sign that said "mind reader" from my forehead. My b.
    And so long as you haven’t experienced this: to die and so to grow,
    you are only a troubled guest on the dark earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    So I'm with you in that hip hop can be fun, commercially succesful, and still be considered true to the artform. This bullshit about keeping it real automatically meaning keeping it heavy is just that, and has absolutely nothing to do with the history of the music. But it's equally ignorant to undercut the artform by saying that all it is is some shit you can grind to at the club.
    I totally agree with you on this, I was never trying to imply that hip hop's just music for dancing to or whatever. and I know that music with a message that's more well thought out is objectively "better" and I do listen to it and enjoy it, but there is a time and place for everything and I don't think all music should have to be deep to be considered good. mostly I just don't think people should be so quick to judge based on how popular something is, even artists who come out with shallow radio rap at times can still be capable of something beyond that.

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    ah right ok, so oldschool is good ya.




    And also.... yes i am doing this ....because it brings back good memories from teenage years so ner.

    "We knew he was someone who had a tragic flaw, that's where his greatness came from"

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    I prefer indie rap.



    Eddie Murphy at 0:58 has an exquisite taste in jackets, and the piece at 1:39 is probably in my top 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chana View Post
    I totally agree with you on this, I was never trying to imply that hip hop's just music for dancing to or whatever. and I know that music with a message that's more well thought out is objectively "better" and I do listen to it and enjoy it, but there is a time and place for everything and I don't think all music should have to be deep to be considered good. mostly I just don't think people should be so quick to judge based on how popular something is, even artists who come out with shallow radio rap at times can still be capable of something beyond that.
    I think the issue is just that, as Zarathustra was pointing out, over time there's been an increasingly cynical quality to the way that mainstream artist and labels have approached the music.

    The thing that makes me alright with Sugarhill Gang and not with the idea of some of these rappers that are out there today is the fact that Sugarhill Gang made good music and happened to blow up as a result, whereas these artist that are out there now are basically manufactured to blow up. The music is completely incidental to the profit. So I disagree pretty strongly with what I bolded. I don't expect my Big Mac to be a filet mignon; I don't expect Drake to be Dre. Drake, like a Big Mac, is enjoyable, but completely lacks credibility in terms of substance.

    On the other hand, though, there's a part of me that kind of looks at the shape of things, and is pretty fuckin alright with it. I mean, the fact that hip hop went from some shit some kids in Brooklyn were rollin with to the such a big part of the culture as a whole is incredible. That the real game is that you have men like Dre and Jay-Z who were able to take hip hop, sell it to the suburbs, and build fuckin empires out of it. That maybe there'd be no Barry without Diddy coming first.

    I might be goin a little far with it there, but you get my point. Anyways.

    And so long as you haven’t experienced this: to die and so to grow,
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    I was introduced to these while playing tony hawk's pro skater games on the ps one.
    Back in the days.


    Public Enemy - By the time I get to Arizona
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFOb_f7ubw

    If You Must - Del The Funky Homosapien
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjDAV...eature=related

    Ozomatli - Cut Chemist SuiteNzFQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALu8Rii

    Pin the Tail on the Donkey - Naughty By Nature
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOXv3vWbiL0

    (Didn't post the videos directly because this thread is lagging too much already)

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