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    The opening title sequence of Skyfall is rather interesting, at least what can be seen of it:



    Though not enough dancing girls...but at least there are more than in the shitty Casino Royale title sequence.

    Skyfall's title sequence is like walking through a haunted house. And what was with those Chinese dragon eel things?

    I think my favorite title sequence of the Brosnan/Craig (post-Maurice Binder) era was the one for Tomorrow Never Dies, where technology is the theme.

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    From the Knights Templar to Bond, James Bond

    I like Bond, James Bond that is, 007 with a license to kill, because before Bond there was Simon Templar, otherwise known as 'the Saint'.

    And I like Simon Templar, the Saint, because before Templar there were the Knights Templar.

    And the line from the Knights Templar of the Middle Ages can be drawn right up to the present day with James Bond in, "Skyfall", for the Knights Templar were given a dispensation by the Pope to kill without losing their immortal souls, just as James Bond today has a license to kill.

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    That's cute... although I think there is an underlying assumption that Bond has already lost his soul and is damned in this career of his. Seriously. I think it kind of plays that way. He has gotten no special dispensation, he is damned so that the rest of the world can sleep easy, and there's no way for him to ever assuage his guilt. He must just kill and kill until he is in turn killed himself. And he rather knows this, and accepts his fate, and it brings a kind of futility and melancholy to his actions. (It was especially highlighted in this iteration when he lost Vesper -- I doubt he believes he can ever be happy, he is in fact cursed.)
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    The Papal Dispensation, Simon Templar, Bond and Breivik

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    That's cute... although I think there is an underlying assumption that Bond has already lost his soul and is damned in this career of his. Seriously. I think it kind of plays that way. He has gotten no special dispensation, he is damned so that the rest of the world can sleep easy, and there's no way for him to ever assuage his guilt. He must just kill and kill until he is in turn killed himself. And he rather knows this, and accepts his fate, and it brings a kind of futility and melancholy to his actions. (It was especially highlighted in this iteration when he lost Vesper -- I doubt he believes he can ever be happy, he is in fact cursed.)
    I like being cute for you.

    And the papal dispensation of the Knights Templar resonate today in real life with Anders Behring Breivik who saw himself as continuing the tradition of the Knights Templar. And just as the Knights Templar could kill without losing their immortal souls, Breivik also believes he can do no wrong by killing for his country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I like being cute for you.
    I'm intrigued.

    And the papal dispensation of the Knights Templar resonate today in real life with Anders Behring Breivik who saw himself as continuing the tradition of the Knights Templar. And just as the Knights Templar could kill without losing their immortal souls, Breivik also believes he can do no wrong by killing for his country.
    Who is Breivik again?

    To tie things back to spies and secret assassin orgs again, David Morrell's earlier novels dealt with some historical bits and pieces (like David Abelard), as well as his Fraternity of the Stone about a group of assassin monks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I like Bond, James Bond that is, 007 with a license to kill, because before Bond there was Simon Templar, otherwise known as 'the Saint'.

    And I like Simon Templar, the Saint, because before Templar there were the Knights Templar.

    And the line from the Knights Templar of the Middle Ages can be drawn right up to the present day with James Bond in, "Skyfall", for the Knights Templar were given a dispensation by the Pope to kill without losing their immortal souls, just as James Bond today has a license to kill.

    So in other words: James Bond is gonna be a playable character in the new Assassin's Creed video game.

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    Been listening to the older theme songs. Tell me this would've been a better theme song for the opening titles



    instead of, well, this one:



    FUNFACT: The Man with the Golden Gun is widely regarded as the most unsuccessful Bond movie of all time. I guarantee it would've been a big hit if they chose to use Alice Cooper's rejected theme song, don't you?

    I mean, who cares that the song is conveniently written so that the title is announced just when the title is shown on screen?

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    The music doesn't have as heavy a "Bond" stamp on it, but I think it's a far more interesting song on its own than the theme they used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    The music doesn't have as heavy a "Bond" stamp on it, but I think it's a far more interesting song on its own than the theme they used.
    I did hear a tiny hint of Monty Norman's iconic theme song, though.

    Another song without the heavy "Bond" stamp was this film's predecessor, Live and Let Die.

    Besides, it's Alice Cooper!!!!

    BTW, what was your opinion of the actual film The Man with the Golden Gun? I watched it again on the 50th Anniversary blu-ray collection, I didn't think it was half bad, except

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    I did hear a tiny hint of Monty Norman's iconic theme song, though.

    Another song without the heavy "Bond" stamp was this film's predecessor, Live and Let Die.

    Besides, it's Alice Cooper!!!!

    BTW, what was your opinion of the actual film The Man with the Golden Gun?
    TBH, I haven't watched the Connery/Moore movies for about 18-20 years now. I should give them a revisit, to see how I view them now. Although I think Christopher Lee was the baddie (?), it was funny seeing Herve whassisname in the same movie, since I automatically mentally then try to match him with Ricardo Montalbon. I also never saw many of the Pierce Brosnan showings -- I think only GoldenEye had decent reviews, but the truth is that I got bored with Bond by that point and just stopped watching, they all seemed too derivative ... a copy of a copy of a copy... until the new iteration came around.
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