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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I thought Dalton was better than Lazenby or Brosnan.
    How would you rank Moore, may I ask?

    I'm still on the fence on whether Lazenby would've made a good Bond if he had just made more movies. But I thought On Her Majesty's Secret Service was the most boring Bond movie of them all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Kamen's interesting. I remember him from way back with Highlander. Here, he does a lot of melancholy textured stuff, then out of the blue comes out with loud shrill/percusive sounds and even breaks time signature and adds in unexpected instrumentation. So I understand where you're going with this -- it can be kind of unsettling to listen to, putting the viewers on edge.
    He's something of an emo Alan Silvestri, IOW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    How would you rank Moore, may I ask?
    I'm not sure. When I was a teenager and only had Connery, Lazenby, and Moore to choose from, I liked Moore the best.

    But then I got older and my tastes changed. I prefer Connery now to Moore. The Moore movies tended to be campier, which I don't like as much now.

    I never liked the polished/produced/untouched Bond as much. I read the books when I was a teen, before I saw the movies; and Fleming's Bond was quieter, low-key, kind of thuggish. Not nearly as polished and slick as the movie presentations. It's why I like Craig better -- he dresses up nicely but at core, he's still kind of a brute and will kill you if it's convenient, break the rules (and not in a cute/whimsical fashion) if he has a goal to accomplish. In some ways he reminds me of a wolf.

    I'm still on the fence on whether Lazenby would've made a good Bond if he had just made more movies. But I thought On Her Majesty's Secret Service was the most boring Bond movie of them all.
    it's really a shame. It could have been better... and it ends so tragically, which could wring out a lot of pathos if the rest of the movie had built it up properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    That's the beauty of it. It's a throwback to the old songs, and it sounds like a James Bond song.
    To me, it relies too heavily on the 007 theme. Every Bond movie has done this since Casino Royale. I actually liked "You Know My Name" as it really set up the themes of Casino Royale very well (and with the fantastic title sequence and all). At first I wasn't a fan of "Another Day to Die" but it grew on me as time went by. It was also a very unconventional Bond song.

    However, I will agree that it sounds similar to an old school Bond song. This is also what the filmmakers were going for with the movie, so in a way it is appropriate.

    More interesting is what Thomas Newman's actual music score is going to be like, as I don't recall him ever scoring action films. And I hope Sam Mendes, who also has never been an action director, isn't as abysmal as Marc Forster.
    The two have worked together several times. Road To Perdition immediately comes to mind. Both were more than competent enough to make it work. Roger Deakins is the cinematographer, so by default it will be more visually appealing than Quantum of Solace. Michael Bay had to tweak his trademark "shakycam" action style for the Transformers sequels because he shot multiple sequences in IMAX (similar to Skyfall, if I'm not mistaken).

    Obviously, this is the most ambitious Bond movie in years. I only hope it remain conservative with the "homage" thing going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    To me, it relies too heavily on the 007 theme. Every Bond movie has done this since Casino Royale. I actually liked "You Know My Name" as it really set up the themes of Casino Royale very well (and with the fantastic title sequence and all). At first I wasn't a fan of "Another Day to Die" but it grew on me as time went by. It was also a very unconventional Bond song.

    However, I will agree that it sounds similar to an old school Bond song. This is also what the filmmakers were going for with the movie, so in a way it is appropriate.
    Of course, just because a song is unconventional, it doesn't mean it sounds any less like crap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
    The two have worked together several times. Road To Perdition immediately comes to mind. Both were more than competent enough to make it work. Roger Deakins is the cinematographer, so by default it will be more visually appealing than Quantum of Solace. Michael Bay had to tweak his trademark "shakycam" action style for the Transformers sequels because he shot multiple sequences in IMAX (similar to Skyfall, if I'm not mistaken).

    Obviously, this is the most ambitious Bond movie in years. I only hope it remain conservative with the "homage" thing going on.
    I don't think shooting in IMAX for a franchise's 50th anniversary is very justified. They should've shot in 3D, that way, there would've been ample opportunity for a gun barrel sequence with more depth. Christ, the gun barrel opening was born for 3D shoots, no pun intended. IMAX is just an overpriced big screen. (I saw Mission: Impossible 4 on IMAX, and $20 was not worth it.)

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    I find myself surprised by how much I like this song (her songs are so overplayed I can no longer listen). But I just love Adele's voice. If I had 1/100th of her gift I would be thrilled to the tippiest tips of my fingertips.

    I will admit here and now before witnesses that I have yet to see a James Bond movie.

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    I find myself surprised by how much I like this song (her songs are so overplayed I can no longer listen). But I just love Adele's voice. If I had 1/100th of her gift I would be thrilled to the tippiest tips of my fingertips.

    I will admit here and now before witnesses that I have yet to see a James Bond movie.

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    Adele, good choice for a Bond theme song... Sounds good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    Of course, just because a song is unconventional, it doesn't mean it sounds any less like crap.
    It was ambitious, though. It was also surprisingly effective over the opening credit sequence.

    And I just listened to the Skyfall song in full--I only heard half of it before.

    Great melody, fantastic orchestra; Adele's voice retains the sultriness of Shirley Bassey.
    But the lyrics absolutely kill this song. They're embarrassingly atrocious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck_of_Death View Post
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    But the lyrics absolutely kill this song. They're embarrassingly atrocious.
    I agree. They're pretty high school.

    EDIT: Still, all this JB music talk... I'm currently streaming all the theme songs off Rhapsody, it's been awhile since I've listened to them. I used to have a lot of them on cassette, years ago. Shirley Bassey... woot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I agree. They're pretty high school.

    EDIT: Still, all this JB music talk... I'm currently streaming all the theme songs off Rhapsody, it's been awhile since I've listened to them. I used to have a lot of them on cassette, years ago. Shirley Bassey... woot!
    I love how they manage to make a love song out of a title like Moonraker without making it sound overly pornographic.



    Also happened to be another of my favorite Bond movies.

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