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    Stumbled upon this
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    That was beautiful.


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    Interesting this movie is back in the news again, but this concept is intriguing -- IMO one of those "backstory things that the writers know but they never actually come out and say in the movie."

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/yale-p...230800478.html
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...-skyfall-.html

    However, one fan theory that came about was that villain Raoul Silva (Javier Bardem) may be M's (Judi Dench) son. (Remember Silva was the one who wanted revenge on M for leaving him to rot in a cell in Hong Kong.)...
    I'd have to watch the movie again to brush up on it, but I definitely do perceive the interaction between M and Silva to be like that of mother and estranged child, the way he relates to her... and it would also make a helluvalotta sense when dovetailed with the whole Bond arc in that movie, about his being orphaned and M being in many ways his "mum" and then even going back to his family roots and destroying that one remaining part of his heritage in the process of saving this mother figure. Silva is the bad son who can't get over his issues and ends up destroying the family, while Bond is the good son who tries to intervene and is given Mum's final blessing.

    Thematically, I think it actually adds even more sense to the movie as subtext.

    The anagram could be a little forced; however, the wording in the original message is actually a little "odd" -- not the expected way someone might say it -- and we're talking spies anyway, used to coding and manipulation of messages, so maybe it is a message. Who knows?
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    Daniel Craig is signed on for two more movies. I really want to see him do a campy Bond picture at least once, and one with real gadgets, too.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, and I want David Arnold back. Fuck Thomas Newman. He is unsuited to score action.

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    I watched it last night again.

    I think there's enough subtext there to suggest Silva is her illegitimate son. We'll never know, though, and it doesn't even matter -- because the reality is that the relationship (between her and Bond, and between her and Silva) DOES reflect a mother/son relationship whether it's blood or not.

    They were both betrayed by M; Silva was traded for a number of spies, Bond was traded for the hard disk (which Moneypenny failed to retrieve). Their lives were expendable. M used them.

    So Silva's the son that felt betrayed and went bad; Bond also was betrayed, but he never turns on Mum. It's definitely a replacement of the bad son with the good son.

    Silva goes bad because of the betrayal, while Bond forgives her / sees the rationale of her choices, and also accepts his own complicity in them... ("You know I made the right call, and you would have too") and even though Bond continues to snipe with her, you know he understands her decision and approves. He knows he's a tool... yet a willing one. And he actually loves her; she really is his family/mother, after he was orphaned so many years prior. She disciplines him when he gets out of line and never pulls punches, yet she also believes in him (and this is actually the thing that seems to have riled him most when she ordered Eve to take the shot earlier in the movie -- not that she risked killing him, but that she did not believe he could get the drive and the shot was even necessary).

    So the big deal is that Silva saw her trading him as a "sellout of him" and a breaking of trust, and he tries to get Bond to view her sending him back to the field despite his failing the tests as yet another expendient abuse of an old broken tool... but Bond never sees it that way, he sees it as her choice to believe in him again despite his failing the tests.

    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

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    Figured all of that out on the first viewing.

    With the exception of Tracy from OHMSS (the only woman he loved) and Vesper from Casino Royale (the one who turned him cold and made him a walking penis), M is the quintessential Bond girl--his surrogate mother.

    Substance in a Bond film--who'd thought?

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