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    Pop music does suck. It is overly repetitive, has zero complexity, and so forth. However, it has a calming effect generally because it is so predictable. It's all about eliciting a certain mood/energy not about the beauty of expression within the medium itself.
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    While I stopped listening to this one for quite a number of months, it's a pop song that has some legs for me. The clip itself is interesting, the blending and unblending of person and artwork/concept of the relationship.

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    I like the old one hit wonder pop music like Tiffany.

    Remember this one?...

    "and then you put your arms around me
    and we stumble to the ground
    and then you say"

    Sing it loud...

    "I think we're alone now..."

    Ah, good music.
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    Every time I see a 'Call Me Maybe'-imitation video I comfort myself with the knowledge that the creators, participants and supporters will suffer for all eternity in the 2nd circle of Hell, cursed to dance just to avoid the hail-stones being flung at them. Fuckers.

    Music that is on the (bi-/quarter-)daily playlist of mainstream radio stations is, by default, shit. Even if it didn't start out shitty, the over-exposure turns it into shit. Gotye especially - what a piece of shit.

    EDIT: @andante if your taste in music could be represented by a vector, it would consist of only one component with the associated unit vector ŝ for shitty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I'm not really a fan of most Top 40 music, but I will never understand how some indie morons have turned "catchy" into a pejorative, like it's some kind of cheap stunt. Isn't catchy the whole point?

    Definite yes to the bolded. However, I suppose there's good catchy and bad catchy. The people who say catchy music sucks are probably focusing on songs that are catchy but lack originality or are catchy to being annoying- being constantly played on radio stations. Then there's good catchy- songs that immediately grab your attention because they are unique and emotionally stirring and don't sound like everything else out there.

    Then there are songs that aren't catchy upon a first listen or don't get catchy until later on. Some such songs get better after repeated listens. I can think of alot of classical pieces like that. They start out slow until later some sort of climax is reached. Some pieces are rather complex and you could listen to it several times and not quite experience it in the same way.

    I think of it as a continuum. At one end you have the catchy top-40 type of pop music. At the other end you have more subtle and complex compositions that may take several listens to fully appreciate it. The first is generally more accessible and thought of as instantly catchy but also quicker to lose interest and get annoyed by it. With the latter, it takes longer to get into it, but less likely to find irritation from overexposure. The former is more overly catchy. The latter more subtly catchy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UniqueMixture View Post
    Pop music does suck. It is overly repetitive, has zero complexity, and so forth. However, it has a calming effect generally because it is so predictable. It's all about eliciting a certain mood/energy not about the beauty of expression within the medium itself.
    Overgeneralize much? There are some pop songs that would fit this description but certainly not all of them. There are popular songs that are deserving of their popular status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisius View Post
    There's actually some science behind pop music being popular, your brain has an endorphin release when it successfully predicts a pattern, pop music, in its simplicity, offers plenty of predictable motions for your brain to get high on. More intricate music may give you a better high, but only with greater effort and it'll take some experience with music in general, hence that pop is popular mostly among teens and young adults.
    This makes sense to me. I can find some enjoyment in more predictable music, but it gets tiring after a while, even among my favorite genres. I'll usually tend to choose my music by following what suites my mood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmileyMan View Post
    andante if your taste in music could be represented by a vector, it would consist of only one component with the associated unit vector ŝ for shitty.
    I like some pop/bubblegum and not others. A lot of my taste in music surrounds dark minimal techno, industrial, classical, some baroque (specifically Bach), some rock, some anthem trance and a number of other genres. It's easier for me to state what genres I dislike and that would be primarily country and rap.

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    Some catchy pop music is great. I mean, how much of The Beatles' output qualified as that?

    However, I think my tastes are fairly dependent on when this pop music from as I do think it has gotten worse. See my thread about that.

    I think popular music peaked in the 1970s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post


    While I stopped listening to this one for quite a number of months, it's a pop song that has some legs for me. The clip itself is interesting, the blending and unblending of person and artwork/concept of the relationship.
    I saw this on the tv couple days ago and @ the bold caught my attention.
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