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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I read that issue of Knightfall last week in the bookstore (where Bats has his back broken). I had trouble even getting through it, it was a STUPID issue... neither the writer or the artist had any sense of how to tell a story so that it was emotionally engaging. I tried to skim through the rest of the issues in the book format and just found it really bad.

    in that sense, I think the movie was better than the comic, at least for that particular scene.
    It is only a comic book, isn't it?

    But even in that, they just don't make them like they used to.
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    I disagree. Fables is damned good, and there's others out there nowadays.

    Not sure about Batman, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I disagree. Fables is damned good, and there's others out there nowadays.

    Not sure about Batman, though.
    I wouldn't know, I don't go near the damn things anymore. Not in at least 35 years. But what I've seen online didn't look very promising.

    I suppose I should
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    The fighting was clunky. The movie was dark, intense. And in my view, it should never have been made. At least they spared us the gruesome back-breaking scene depicted in the comic. It wasn't as gruesome as that, but it was there. And there have been more disgusting movies than this by far. But at least those had low box-office takes.
    My biggest issue was the film was that it really had nothing to do with Batman or anything really related to what I'd typically associate with a typical Batman adventure. Basically, the film just felt too..big? Like the cranked up the action sequences and the severity of the threat of the films' predecessor up times one-thousand, to the point to where it just felt silly and completely over Batman's head. Also, there was very little interconnectivity between the characters throughout most of the film, as if they tried to incorporate and compress so many different elements and avenues into a limited allotted time.

    It's really hard for me to give specific examples without spoilers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmata View Post
    My biggest issue was the film was that it really had nothing to do with Batman or anything really related to what I'd typically associate with a typical Batman adventure. Basically, the film just felt too..big? Like the cranked up the action sequences and the severity of the threat of the films' predecessor up times one-thousand, to the point to where it just felt silly and completely over Batman's head. Also, there was very little interconnectivity between the characters throughout most of the film, as if they tried to incorporate and compress so many different elements and avenues into a limited allotted time.

    It's really hard for me to give specific examples without spoilers.
    I really couldn't get into it enough to make that kind of deep analysis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmata View Post
    My biggest issue was the film was that it really had nothing to do with Batman or anything really related to what I'd typically associate with a typical Batman adventure. Basically, the film just felt too..big? Like the cranked up the action sequences and the severity of the threat of the films' predecessor up times one-thousand, to the point to where it just felt silly and completely over Batman's head. Also, there was very little interconnectivity between the characters throughout most of the film, as if they tried to incorporate and compress so many different elements and avenues into a limited allotted time.

    It's really hard for me to give specific examples without spoilers.
    I think this entire thread is already full of spoilers, and not even using the SPOILER tag.

    However, if you wish to post some with the tag, it's [ SPOILER ] spoiler here [ /SPOILER ] without the spaces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Not really. not in the issue I saw.I've seen far far more graphic, as I've said, in many other comics. Unless you're an 8 year old kid, I guess.

    Besides if it had been far more graphic in the movie, then it would have been even less believable when everything is fixed through what amounts to a chiropractic move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmata View Post
    My biggest issue was the film was that it really had nothing to do with Batman or anything really related to what I'd typically associate with a typical Batman adventure. Basically, the film just felt too..big? Like the cranked up the action sequences and the severity of the threat of the films' predecessor up times one-thousand, to the point to where it just felt silly and completely over Batman's head. Also, there was very little interconnectivity between the characters throughout most of the film, as if they tried to incorporate and compress so many different elements and avenues into a limited allotted time.

    It's really hard for me to give specific examples without spoilers.
    Yes. This was my major problem with it as well.
    This one dismissed many of the elements and themes which made the previous films subversive.
    Also, the character of Bane and the "Knightfall" storyline are both cheap gimmicks.

    It became another "popcorn flick", with a finale that tried to out-do Transformers 3.
    I still enjoyed it for what it was, but it should have been much, much more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    Not really. not in the issue I saw.I've seen far far more graphic, as I've said, in many other comics. Unless you're an 8 year old kid, I guess.

    Besides if it had been far more graphic in the movie, then it would have been even less believable when everything is fixed through what amounts to a chiropractic move.
    Yes, it was a rather sloppy WWE kind of move. Not at all like this scene.

    Maybe I am an 8 year old kid? Not really. If I was I'd still be reading this shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    I think this entire thread is already full of spoilers, and not even using the SPOILER tag.

    However, if you wish to post some with the tag, it's [ SPOILER ] spoiler here [ /SPOILER ] without the spaces.
    I guess anybody who clicks on this thread should expect loads of spoilers.
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