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    Well in all honesty here's what I remember about being in my late teens and very early twenties: it's FUN to go to parties and feel that you belong to a certain subversive social group.

    However, it's when hipsters are over 21 or so that it starts to bug me. And some of them are 35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    I think it's pretty simple. People who cop this attitude take pride in their rarefied and discerning taste. If everyone likes the same thing as they do, then their taste is common. That's why they abandon bands that get big and search out the next cool band that hardly anyone likes yet. As long as their favorites remain unknown or unappreciated by a majority of the population, these people can maintain the illusion that they possess rare powers of music appreciation. It has nothing to do with quality; it's all about perceived quality.

    They, along with like minds in the music press, maintain the circle jerk by promulgating the lie that once bands hit it big they begin to suck. It helps their argument - what could give an aspiring tastemaker more cred than knowing when the jig is up before everyone else? What they fail to factor in is that when a band hits it big it's just as common that public taste came around to their sound as it is that the band compromised to get more popular. They can't see this because the given in their thinking is that their taste is unassailable.

    Besides, even if were true, what is the harm in making music that people enjoy? I like a lot of bands that were pretty obscure when I first started listening to them, and I'm happy for their success because I think they're good and they deserve it. "Selling out" is the most overused and misused term in popular culture that I can think of.
    I do wonder - is it possible to make music that is popular and has "artistic merit"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Great One View Post
    So what you are saying is that hipsters abandon music that they once loved once it becomes mainstream. The reason being is because they feel that when their favorite bands become famous, then the music is no longer about creativity anymore, but instead about prestige and recognition?
    That might be true in part. Moreover, I also think it has to do with the perceived superiority of being on board with something only a very small group of people are aware of (and sometimes that means pretending to like things you don't, or, in the converse, abandoning things you like because they no longer carry any special prestige).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZPowers View Post
    That might be true in part. Moreover, I also think it has to do with the perceived superiority of being on board with something only a very small group of people are aware of (and sometimes that means pretending to like things you don't, or, in the converse, abandoning things you like because they no longer carry any special prestige).
    Wouldn't that just make you a turn-coat though? Seriously, take for example if you were a hipster and your best friend had a band. Then, your best friend's band sky-rocketed to fame and success. Why on Earth would you then abandon your friend's band and say, "They aren't for me anymore" just because they rose to fame. It seems like an absolutely ridiculous concept to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    sometimes "group non-conformists" are the worst conformists of all... we have an area of the city here where hipsters usually reside and work and such... I've had the misfortune of having that area as my sales route before... it was horrifying :horor: I actually ran across an eye doctor who sold non-prescription glasses to those who really didn't need them but wanted them for goodness sake!
    I hate glasses and contacts, I'm suppose to wear them but don't so i can never see the road signs until i'm right up on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    I hate glasses and contacts, I'm suppose to wear them but don't so i can never see the road signs until i'm right up on them.
    I wear contacts all of the time... I haven't worn my glasses for about 10 years, when I got my last pair that any hipster would be proud of... I went all Rivers Cuomo before doing so was hip to do because it went better with my face shape
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I wear contacts all of the time... I haven't worn my glasses for about 10 years, when I got my last pair that any hipster would be proud of... I went all Rivers Cuomo before doing so was hip to do because it went better with my face shape
    haha "I was cool before it was cool to be cool"
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    haha "I was cool before it was cool to be cool"
    I went through a hipster phase and out before it even became "hipsters"... I became a square and am quite content with that now

    now the next cool thing is going to become squares
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    Quote Originally Posted by prplchknz View Post
    haha "I was cool before it was cool to be cool"
    I was cool before cool was considered overrated!

    It's just another childish pissing contest, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    I went through a hipster phase and out before it even became "hipsters"... I became a square and am quite content with that now

    now the next cool thing is going to become squares
    I hope not *shudders*

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexicon View Post
    I was cool before cool was considered overrated!

    It's just another childish pissing contest, I guess.
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