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    Thought you guys might find this interesting. This is a graph depicting how often people were mentioned on Sports Center.

    “Everybody has a secret world inside of them. All of the people of the world, I mean everybody. No matter how dull and boring they are on the outside, inside
    them they've all got unimaginable, magnificent, wonderful, stupid, amazing worlds. Not just one world. Hundreds of them. Thousands maybe.” -Neil Gaiman

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    Awesome chart, and interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patches View Post
    I can't believe one would even question why you would want Manning over Tebow.:
    I can't either. I generally like Tebow and believe he deserves more credit than his haters are willing to give. But choosing him over even a 36-year-old Peyton Manning could be charitably described as insane.
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    Just depends what you want out of football. Some people really enjoy the sport/sports for the stories like that of Tebow, which were illustrated this in this last season. An underdog that was underestimated making it to where he did... Working against the odds. People want to see if that will develop further, thus making the story even more sensational and heart warming. Then there are people that want their team to win a ring and understand that the chance of that happening are much, much higher with Manning.

    Women like Tebow, men like Manning. Excluding Patches, of course. Is that fair to say? heh

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    Quote Originally Posted by swordpath View Post
    Just depends what you want out of football. Some people really enjoy the sport/sports for the stories like that of Tebow, which were illustrated this in this last season. An underdog that was underestimated making it to where he did... Working against the odds. People want to see if that will develop further, thus making the story even more sensational and heart warming. Then there are people that want their team to win a ring and understand that the chance of that happening are much, much higher with Manning.

    Women like Tebow, men like Manning. Excluding Patches, of course. Is that fair to say? heh
    In my case, I'm actually just a "homer" (Dallas fan), and don't know a lot of details outside of that. I pay attention to basketball more, and I'm probably just projecting perceptions from there. If someone like Tim Duncan (about the same age and legacy as Manning) was traded for a Tebow equivalent (not sure who that'd be... maybe Jeremy Lin), people would wonder wtf was going on. 36 is practically a geezer in the NBA. But this isn't basketball, so whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    In my case, I'm actually just a "homer" (Dallas fan), and don't know a lot of details outside of that. I pay attention to basketball more, and I'm probably just projecting perceptions from there. If someone like Tim Duncan (about the same age and legacy as Manning) was traded for a Tebow equivalent (not sure who that'd be... maybe Jeremy Lin), people would wonder wtf was going on. 36 is practically a geezer in the NBA. But this isn't basketball, so whatever.
    You're right. Manning doesn't have lasting value at this point. Everyone knows that though. This is simply an "all in" move as they call it. Either he wins the team a super bowl within the next three years or acquiring Manning becomes almost a wasted move. Unless he's able to impart invaluable wisdom to a younger player (such as Tebow but that isn't likely to happen) then I guess having Manning on the team isn't all in vein. But I understand that's just how the sport works. Whatever move a team can make season by season to increase their odds in winning something in the short term, often times that's considered a good decision. At the end of the day, a league title is paramount. I wouldn't say the Broncos made a bad choice by any means, but hopefully it pays off for them in the limited time they have. They spent a &#*% ton of money on this dude.

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    If we can get Tebow to Jacksonville, we'll be able to fill our seats for once, and maybe just maybe, start building a real team again.

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    Tebow to the Jets. Could there be a less exciting trade?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireSto...-jets-15971699

    and this story:

    Sean Payton, head coach of the N.O. Saints gets suspended ALL OF THE UPCOMING SEASON, and the team loses a 2nd round draft pick, as well as a fine of $500,000.

    http://content.usatoday.com/communit...1#.T2oNoI4_YuI

    New Orleans Saints head coach Sean Payton has been suspended for one year and the team will lose its second round pick in 2012 and '13 and pay $500,000 as a result of the NFL's bounty investigation, the league announced Wednesday.

    Former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who orchestrated the program, has been suspended from the NFL indefinitely. Saints general manager Mickey Loomis also faces an eight-game suspension and a $500,000 fine.

    The NFL revealed in early March an investigation which found more than 20 defensive players for the Saints participated in a 'bounty' system from 2009 to '11 which rewarded individuals with cash for harming opposing players.

    "We are all accountable and responsible for player health and safety and the integrity of the game," Commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday. "We will not tolerate conduct or a culture that undermines those priorities. No one is above the game or the rules that govern it. Respect for the game and the people who participate in it will not be compromised."

    The league found that the cash pool reached $50,000 or more during the 2009 playoffs, and players were paid $1,500 for a "knockout" and $1,000 for a "cart-off" with payouts doubling or tripling during the playoffs. Money was provided primarily by players.

    All such payments violate league rules for non-contract bonuses.

    Williams administered the program, and the NFL says Payton was not a direct participant, yet was aware of the allegations and "failed to stop the bounty program." Saints assistant head coach Joe Vitt is also suspended without pay for the first six games of the 2012 season.

    "A combination of elements made this matter particularly unusual and egregious," Goodell continued. "When there is targeting of players for injury and cash rewards over a three-year period, the involvement of the coaching staff, and three years of denials and willful disrespect of the rules, a strong and lasting message must be sent that such conduct is totally unacceptable and has no place in the game."

    Payton and Loomis took "full responsibility" for the violations in a joint statement issued days after the findings, and later met with Goodell in New York to discuss the issue.

    The pair apologized for the "unique hardship" on team owner Tom Benson, recognized the severity of the violations, and promised that they "will never happen again."

    Williams, who left the Saints this offseason to become defensive coordinator for the St. Louis Rams, apologized for his program, which he reportedly also implemented in several other NFL cities. Commissioner Goodell will review Williams' status at the conclusion of the 2012 season and consider whether to reinstate him.

    "I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again," Williams said.

    Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma became the player face of the program following an SI.com report describing his $10,000 offer to any player who could knock Brett Favre out of the 2009 NFC Championship Game. The league did not hand down punishment for any players involved on Wednesday, but ESPN reports that the issue is still under review.

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    Thank God for the Jets. They're like the NFL's drunk uncle. Always entertaining
    Everybody have fun tonight. Everybody Wang Chung tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EffEmDoubleyou View Post
    Thank God for the Jets. They're like the NFL's drunk uncle. Always entertaining
    Haha. Rex Ryan is a trip for sure.

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