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    1. e4 c5
    2. Nc3 Nc6
    3. g3 g6
    4. Bg2 Bg7
    5. d3 d6
    6. f4 Rb8
    7. Nf3 Nf6
    8. 0-0 0-0
    9. h3 b5
    10. a3 a5
    11. Be3 b4
    12. axb4 axb4
    13. Ne2 Qc7
    14. b3 e6
    15. Rc1 Ra8

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    Doesn't it sort of defeat the purpose when one side uses a chess engine to analyse? It's not like you're going to deviate much from the lines it's going to show you, and the machine will make sure the lines themselves are okay, given that the other side is human, and not a grandmaster at that.
    Not really.

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    1. e4 c5
    2. Nc3 Nc6
    3. g3 g6
    4. Bg2 Bg7
    5. d3 d6
    6. f4 Rb8
    7. Nf3 Nf6
    8. 0-0 0-0
    9. h3 b5
    10. a3 a5
    11. Be3 b4
    12. axb4 axb4
    13. Ne2 Qc7
    14. b3 e6
    15. Rc1 Ra8

    (Here it comes...)
    16. g4

    Quote Originally Posted by Nadir View Post
    Doesn't it sort of defeat the purpose when one side uses a chess engine to analyse? It's not like you're going to deviate much from the lines it's going to show you, and the machine will make sure the lines themselves are okay, given that the other side is human, and not a grandmaster at that.
    I beat a lot of the chess engines out there.

    We'll see how good this Rybka thing is.

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    I thought this was supposed to be correspondence chess, and in correspondence chess using chess engines is allowed. Everyone actually kind of does. This position is so complex it matters a lot how you use the engine, it might actually be I underestimated his whole kingside attack. Generally engines underestimate king attacks.

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    1. e4 c5
    2. Nc3 Nc6
    3. g3 g6
    4. Bg2 Bg7
    5. d3 d6
    6. f4 Rb8
    7. Nf3 Nf6
    8. 0-0 0-0
    9. h3 b5
    10. a3 a5
    11. Be3 b4
    12. axb4 axb4
    13. Ne2 Qc7
    14. b3 e6
    15. Rc1 Ra8
    16. g4 Bb7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Splittet View Post
    I thought this was supposed to be correspondence chess, and in correspondence chess using chess engines is allowed. Everyone actually kind of does. This position is so complex it matters a lot how you use the engine, it might actually be I underestimated his whole kingside attack. Generally engines underestimate king attacks.
    Well, you're right, it's allowed in correspondence chess, but both sides use it. I just thought -- although ygolo seems confident enough! :) -- that just one side using it might create a disadvantage. Not that it matters what with the amount of moves already played -- but might be something to keep in mind for the inevitable next game.
    Not really.

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    If we played real chess ygolo would win - I suck.

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    1. e4 c5
    2. Nc3 Nc6
    3. g3 g6
    4. Bg2 Bg7
    5. d3 d6
    6. f4 Rb8
    7. Nf3 Nf6
    8. 0-0 0-0
    9. h3 b5
    10. a3 a5
    11. Be3 b4
    12. axb4 axb4
    13. Ne2 Qc7
    14. b3 e6
    15. Rc1 Ra8
    16. g4 Bb7
    17. Qe1

    The queen joins the fray, showing why I did 15. Rc1.



    (here is what I believe the position is now)

    Also, Splittet, comentary is illustrative, so you should still try to understand what the engine is feeding you.

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    1. e4 c5
    2. Nc3 Nc6
    3. g3 g6
    4. Bg2 Bg7
    5. d3 d6
    6. f4 Rb8
    7. Nf3 Nf6
    8. 0-0 0-0
    9. h3 b5
    10. a3 a5
    11. Be3 b4
    12. axb4 axb4
    13. Ne2 Qc7
    14. b3 e6
    15. Rc1 Ra8
    16. g4 Bb7
    17. Qe1 Ra2

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    1. e4 c5
    2. Nc3 Nc6
    3. g3 g6
    4. Bg2 Bg7
    5. d3 d6
    6. f4 Rb8
    7. Nf3 Nf6
    8. 0-0 0-0
    9. h3 b5
    10. a3 a5
    11. Be3 b4
    12. axb4 axb4
    13. Ne2 Qc7
    14. b3 e6
    15. Rc1 Ra8
    16. g4 Bb7
    17. Qe1 Ra2

    18. f5

    There it is. But I may need to sacrfice some things to make this attack work.

    This will get scary.


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