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    Quote Originally Posted by FunnyDigestion View Post
    The movies I'm always drawn to are the weird dark ones.
    Do you like stop motion animation? I don't know if they are sufficient to creep you, but there are some powerful expressive films.

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    I'm still thinking a bit about Antichrist. It's really woefully mis-titled, looking at Youtube I can see it ended up drawing an audience of imbeciles looking ravenously around for the new gore-fest demoniac slasher kill-em-all movie where hordes of fleshy manikins are slaughtered by somebody who "got de devuhl in im"... which is a shame because this movie is sooo much higher than that. More elevated... it really has nothing to do with the devil or demons at all; the title does provide a 'deep' religious kind of ambience but that isn't worth attracting the youtube numbskulls, altho i guess the youtube numbskulls will be there no matter what happens.

    The review I read of it was negative & talked about its view of "human nature as evil", but it only deals abstractly with evil & human nature only as an afterthought, it's a look at the heart of darkness which is chaos & irrationality... what it suggests is that those things are at the basis of existence itself. Yet nihilistic isn't the appropriate word to describe it because it's about struggle whereas nihilism is blankness.

    Nihilism is impassivity to chaos & pain, which is why most people have an instinctive aversion to it... What humanity does is try to impose order on top of chaos, which is why Willem Dafoe's character brings them out to the woods-- he's convinced he can conquer the darkness within life by facing the woman's fears directly; he doesn't entertain the possibility that the fear is more powerful than him, that there are some things the mind can't handle. It's true-- some things are too much... I said that at one point, lol, watching the film-- "this shit is too much." Personally, if things got to a point for me where this kind of bleakness was life, I wouldn't stick around to find out what happens, I'd get out of there-- I'd kill myself. No biggie... some things are worse than death.

    But back to the movie, that people had such disgusted, repulsed reactions to it only proves to me how successful von Trier was... the movie ITSELF is repulsed.. it's horrifying but what struck me more was how the movie itself is horrified by what it's showing. I think that came thru strongly. I think people who aren't constitutionally ready to accept what the movie is saying will have a strong, gut-level disgusted reaction to it... & I don't mean that elitist-ly, I mean it literally-- unless you've been mentally & physically to the point grasping the sort of darkness the movie is evoking you will probably hate it. I can imagine INTJs liking it. Maybe INTPs wouldn't like it, INFJs may be repulsed, darker INFPs would like it, a lot of ENFPs, ISTPs would probably find it ridiculous or laughable... etc. Most of my friends would hate this movie, it's definitely just for certain people.

    I think von Trier is probably a really dark, troubled ENFP. Functionalogically speaking the effect of the movie is like an Fi monster coming up to crush every last ounce of Ne hope & creation in the human spirit

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    Eraserhead is still my favorite David Lynch movie. coolest sequence:

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwEK7onUO6M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwEK7onUO6M[/YOUTUBE]

    there's a lot of stuff in david lynch about portals, doorways, holes.. discontinuities in identity, location, people who are routinely engaged in illogical tasks. That's what I mean by strange... things not making sense is the axiom, the given background of it. What I've always thought is that what's supposed to strike you is the particular ways they don't make sense. It has a clockwork, mechanical atmosphere to it. David Lynch's movies are baffling, & that's a bad thing as well as a good thing to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Ü View Post
    [I]Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was a better example of both dark and weird if I'm allowed to talk about mainstream movies in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    The weirdest films that come to mind are some of Alejandro Jodorowsky's, such as 'El Topo' and 'The Holy Mountain'.
    I like those trailers, I hope to view the Holy Mountain soon.

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    You're right, that was dark. That man's face reminds me of the hotel concierge in Home Alone 2 I believe. Def. a frightening face

    Quote Originally Posted by 5231311252 View Post
    Nice, now I can unload onto others and pick up some new ones for myself (foreign language films in bold):

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    Martyrs was fucking crazy. Oldboy too, though it also had that under-dwelling creepiness mood. I was wanting to see Meatball Machine but the other splatterpunk movies I've seen were super-retarded, Samurai Princess & Vampire Girl vs. Frankenstein Girl. Though I watched the latter by accident. Meatball Machine, though-- yeah.

    Quote Originally Posted by paixfleurs View Post
    Hmm...geared for younger audiences but still weird and creepy, imo is Coraline.
    Wow, that's the kind of movie that always scared & fascinated me as a kid. God, buttons for eyes.. sheesh. I wonder if kids today would be as creeped out though?
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    one other thing I'll recommend is 200 Motels, Frank Zappa's musical movie from 1971, a surrealistic fiction documentary movie about the band he had then.

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjYNpoS-qI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjYNpoS-qI[/YOUTUBE]

    It's totally weird, funnier than anything to me, though not at all dark. It's barely a movie-- there's no story, he filmed it in a week & only got to shoot 1/3rd of the script, so there are parts that have no connection to anything else in the film. One of the members of his band quit midway thru the filming so they replaced him with Ringo Starr's chauffeur. The music is completely weird & hilarious with a few sexual rock songs thrown in.

    [YOUTUBE="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-T4prYMoCA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-T4prYMoCA[/YOUTUBE]

    I think he undertook the entire effort as an exercise in artistic failure & garbage... I read once that he got the inspiration from seeing a used condom in a gutter in England. So many people think it's worthless but I honestly think it's the best thing he ever did. ... he never got to this frenzied place of 'transcendence in garbage' ever again, & this was relatively early in his career.

    The thing about Zappa was that he was a weirdo but also completely realistic & practical.. so his fascinations are with the garbage of civilized society. There's so much you can draw from his stuff if you look into it. It's like everything is contained in the garbage-- lol, that's the lesson of Zappa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunnyDigestion View Post
    Wow, that's the kind of movie that always scared & fascinated me as a kid. God, buttons for eyes.. sheesh. I wonder if kids today would be as creeped out though?
    Mine adore the movie. They don't behave as if they're creeped out but it does seem to have a very strange draw for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5231311252 View Post
    Nice, now I can unload onto others and pick up some new ones for myself (foreign language films in bold):

    Mysterious Skin
    Hedwig and the Angry Inch
    Visiter Q
    Suicide Circle
    Meatball Machine
    A Serbian Film
    In a Glass Cage
    120 Days of Sodom
    Ichi the Killer
    Oldboy

    Martyrs
    Oldboy is great. I own that one. I've seen Ichi a couple times.

    I saw Visitor Q once, and maybe it was the mood I was in or maybe it was the content, but I think it's the most uncomfortable I've ever felt in a movie (saw it at a screening in college, a small club devoted to horror/disturbing films).

    I've heard of 120 Days of Sodom (based, I think, on something the Marquis de Sade wrote) and I never even had a temptation to watch.

    One I have lined up on my Netflix instant queue that's known for being odd and very disturbing is Irreversible. I've been meaning to watch for a while. It's an odd sensation, sometimes, watching these films. Is is a form of self-punishment? A challenge? Morbid curiosity? I'm not totally sure. I really only give very disturbing* stuff a go every few months.

    *my definition of "very disturbing" is not what most people's is. The Exorcist is not "very disturbing" to me at all.
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    Jacob's Ladder is a good one.

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    Brazil, by Terry Gilliam
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    Repo Man
    Yes and yes. I don't think I've ever seen a movie as funny as Brazil. Most things directed by Terry Gilliam could probably go on this list.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    The screenwriter for that movie (Harmony Korine; I mentioned him earlier) also directed Trash Humpers and Gummo and Julien Donkey-Boy, all of which are strange and somewhat creepy (and quite NSFW as a warning).

    Quote Originally Posted by disregard View Post
    Mulholland drive is weird and dark
    Also sometimes stupid. David Lynch always skirts the line between creepy and dumb, frequently landing on both sides simultaneously. Club Silencio was great. Random woman from behind a trash can was superdumb. I did love Eraserhead, though.

    Heading into the video game realm, I'd check out Yume Nikki, Space Spy, and, of course, Silent Hill. I'm currently in the middle of Yume Nikki and it is quite amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZPowers View Post
    I've heard of 120 Days of Sodom (based, I think, on something the Marquis de Sade wrote) and I never even had a temptation to watch.

    One I have lined up on my Netflix instant queue that's known for being odd and very disturbing is Irreversible. I've been meaning to watch for a while. It's an odd sensation, sometimes, watching these films. Is is a form of self-punishment? A challenge? Morbid curiosity? I'm not totally sure. I really only give very disturbing* stuff a go every few months.

    *my definition of "very disturbing" is not what most people's is. The Exorcist is not "very disturbing" to me at all.
    I'm not easily disturbed either, but there is a scene in Salo (120 days) I wish I hadn't seen. And Irreversible is about as disturbing as Megan's Missing; which is not at all btw.

    I'll try to find my list of movies, because I've seen weirder stuff but I have a really bad memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5231311252 View Post
    I'm not easily disturbed either, but there is a scene in Salo (120 days) I wish I hadn't seen. And Irreversible is about as disturbing as Megan's Missing; which is not at all btw.
    I found the 'meal' harder to bear than all the other things.

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    salo is one of two movies, known to me, that i would recommend against. one of three movies that i switched off half way, because they grossed me out. salo didn't gross me out due to gore or thrill or anything like that, i am cool - antichrist was funny (and awesome) to me, but due to the spirit of the filmmaker. the film is said to be "critical" of society, but it's not that smart.

    watch "eyes wide shut" instead.

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