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    Asylum didn't scare me that much at all... not like Murder House... not did it do a lot for me. And a lot of the storylines just seemed to go nowhere. As stated somewhere else, though, i really did like the last episode, and had no clue what was going to happen until the credits finally rolled and we found out which character was the most hardcore survivor. I guess different strokes and all that.

    As a side note, I watched Cropsey today -- it's a great documentary on NetFlix currently about the Cropsey urban legend mixed with the convicted kidnapper (and suspected murderer) Andre Rand over on Staten Island, and a lot of the events centered around the Willowbrook mental hospital there. I didn't realize that Geraldo Rivera as one of his first gigs ever did an expose on that place in the early 70's and blew the story wide open (there was footage of the patients there and it was horrible... basically the asylum had just become a dumping ground, and patients were covered in feces, naked, untended, etc.), contributing deeply to the shutting down of many facilities a decade later.

    If Rand actually did kill the missing kids, as he had been an attendant there, it's likely it had an impact on him -- all the missing kids had physical or mental problems, and probably Rand (in his own twisted way) thought he was doing them a justice after what he witnessed in that facility. The documentary really didn't try to "solve" anything, it just presented various facets of the story. (I will say that Rand's definitely a nut himself at this point, you can track his deteriorating/fractured view of reality throughout the documentary by his behavior and letters that are shown. But it's still not clear whether he is truly the murderer or whether he was just a reasonable and convenient scapegoat for the crimes, due to his past history.)

    I suspect they modeled Briarcliff on Willowbrook. Even the names are rather similar.
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    For me, Murder House was the scariest out of the three. The idea of being trapped in that house forever kind of freaked me out. It was awful when Violet repeatedly ran around the house in an attempt to escape, not realizing she was dead. Frances Conroy, and Alexandra Breckenridge as Moira were both excellently played, and I loved Zachary Quinto as the scorned lover. I also loved seeing The Black Dahlia. Don't get me wrong though, I liked Asylum. I guess I could have done without the mixture of Alien, Night of the Living Dead, Omen, etc. With all of those elements thrown together, it seemed a bit contrived towards the end of the season. Like @Jennifer said, different strokes.

    So out of Murder House, Briarcliff, or the Coven house, which one would you choose to live in? For me, the Coven house seems the least threatening, so far anyway.

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    My problem with Murder House is that I found the older couple too upper middle class and yuppie beyond belief, and eventually even found the younger couple about as interesting as the Twilight series. I am sorry, but....I just didn't like the family much. I didn't relate to them. I also found the ending a tad too twee.

    Violet was better than her parents though. I pretty much hated the father character and could never muster sufficient sympathy for the mother either.

    Yes, I found the haunted L.A. aspect of it more interesting, the original couple from the twenties, Dr. Murder and yes, AGAIN Lily Rabe's character. I think Lily Rabe and Jessica Lange are consistently the best actresses in all three seasons. I also have had sympathy for both of Jamie Brewer's characters in season 1 and 3. I also enjoyed the maid in Murder House. I should not leave out the talent of Frances Conroy. Like I said, subplots kept me hooked. I liked the neighbors and the old ghosts.

    The Coven house probably is the least threatening.

    I am not alone in preferring Asylum. It was nominated for tons of Emmys last year and I was not surprised. I thought it blew Murder House out of the water, but I prefer the horror tropes from that season probably, the asylum and religious horror and serial killers and everything except for the aliens, really. I also liked the way it ended and found Lange's role in season 2 so dynamic.

    The writing wins in all three seasons though. I can't stop watching the show, and I am not hooked on shows easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    The writing wins in all three seasons though. I can't stop watching the show, and I am not hooked on shows easily.
    Agreed! I'll watch anything Jessica Lange is in! I've had a crush on her since I first saw her in King Kong, and she blew me away as Patsy Kline in Sweet Dreams. The rest of the AHS cast is pretty brilliant too. I will probably get a lashing for saying this, but I'm not a huge Glee fan, however Ryan Murphy has really outdone himself with AHS. I'm just keeping my fingers crossed for Jessica to return for Season 5, as she is saying Season 4 will be her last.

    Best part of Asylum for me was this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Um I am sorry if this comes across as rude, but I don't know how either of you could guess the one "dark horse" person as a Supreme. The Supreme shows the full spectrum of power and has radiant good health. She begins to flower as the other is dying. She will be under forty (probably under thirty) and definitely not sixty.
    Well it's more of a wish fulfillment actually. I don't think that
    will necessarily be The Supreme, it would just be an interesting change.

    I agree about Asylum, thinking on it, possibly is my favourite of the three, although I enjoyed some of the twists of Murder House.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmotini View Post
    Um I am sorry if this comes across as rude, but I don't know how either of you could guess the one "dark horse" person as a Supreme. The Supreme shows the full spectrum of power and has radiant good health. She begins to flower as the other is dying. She will be under forty (probably under thirty) and definitely not sixty.
    You're reading far too much into my comment. Of course there's very little chance / nil chance it would happen, due to the details you've mentioned; but dramatically it would resolve the earlier arc of rivalry and restore what had been likely stolen, as well as expose Fiona's entire reign as a mistake and sham. That is what would make it interesting to a WRITER. And yes, the rules currently preclude it, so very unlikely, it's just that writers do change the rules sometimes so it's kind of impossible to say something with 100% uncertainty especially with a show that DOES pride itself in breaking rules.

    TBH i'm more interested in your thoughts about the main pick, not arguing about an outcome we all agree has slim-to-no chance.

    @Tigerlily: yes! That dance sequence was so awesome. I love it when shows take risks like that.
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    I finally caught this show. Well, I just saw the first episode, but I liked it. Kind of reminds me of the Shining.

    I don't like that father character at all. He strikes me as covering up something really nasty... there is just a lot of things about him that strike me as false. I don't know what to make of that kid or not.

    What's interesting to me, though, is how more normal fears are sort of interwoven with all of this, like a decaying marriage, or adolescent peer groups. I think a lot of the unsettling nature of all of this is that there's some stuff going on in the show which is unsettling, and which actually does happen. It also plays around with the absence of boundaries. Nobody has any boundaries or respect for space. In my overly-analytical tradition, I saw some social commentary throughout. I think the fact that they were kind of bourgeois-y was a deliberate choice that worked for me. The gimp is a really interesting metaphor, too, as a mute, faceless male figure.

    The opening bit about a person being like a house that needs a good foundation....it struck me as prescient foreshadowing.
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    Hasn't the supreme already been given away as killer vagina girl? When she broke the zombie ritual the voodoo witch said "there's real power in that house now". Seems a dead giveaway.

    This season is kind of strange because it lacks the "horror vibe". The only times it comes close is during the opening sequence flashbacks to nasty goings on. And the eerie opening title sequence. But the mood of the show is more black comedy/drama.

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    Yeah, what'shisface the show's creator has Tweeted it, too. I think it was a pic of Zoe with the caption "you don't mess with the Supreme." Unless he's being diversionary, but apparently he's done this before (spoiled his own shows). I don't think subtlety is in his palette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivy View Post
    Yeah, what'shisface the show's creator has Tweeted it, too. I think it was a pic of Zoe with the caption "you don't mess with the Supreme." Unless he's being diversionary, but apparently he's done this before (spoiled his own shows). I don't think subtlety is in his palette.
    OH FIDDLEFUDGE!!!

    How freaking predictable.
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