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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Don't get me wrong. I hated 2012 and Prometheus, too. It's just that I have a special level of hatred reserved for von Trier because his films are nothing more than documentation of his own trifling self-indulgence.

    It wasn't that I was more "bored" by Melancholia than 2012 (good Lord, I couldn't even make it through 2012 because it was headache-inducing), it's that Melancholia was extremely stupid and pretentious. One needs no comparison films to come to that conclusion.
    Some of the earlier stuff is funny.. albeit disturbingly funny (The Idiots). It's like master trolling, put to film.

    I think Prometheus is well done as a film, but I'm tired of the underlying thought behind stories like that (or other sci-fi from Scott). The message seems to be that exploration, science, discovery, the future.. all of it is a pandora's box, with some ungodly monstrosity ready jump out and rape you in the ass. It's a conservative type of take on science fiction. He's not alone on it though, either. So many writers are afraid of the unknown. I don't care to indulge it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    I have a special level of hatred reserved for von Trier because his films are nothing more than documentation of his own trifling self-indulgence.
    Why does that earn your hatred? I wonder why you'd bother to watch Melancholia if you feel that way about its creator?

    It wasn't that I was more "bored" by Melancholia than 2012 (good Lord, I couldn't even make it through 2012 because it was headache-inducing), it's that Melancholia was extremely stupid and pretentious. One needs no comparison films to come to that conclusion.
    What was so stupid about it?
    Have you ever been depressed? I don't think I've ever seen a better depiction of the catatonic state of severe depression on film...

    I guess the fact that his work produces such strong emotion in you is something of a recommendation. There is so little in modern cinema to become animated about in any way... Hatred probably pleases him as much as praise... Possibly more. He is INTP, after all.
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    Brake.
    This flick is bizarre. Terrorists lock a secret service agent in the trunk of a car and torture him in an attempt to gain information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Why does that earn your hatred?
    Because he's a hack? I dislike him in the same way I dislike anybody who is bad at their job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    I wonder why you'd bother to watch Melancholia if you feel that way about its creator?
    I will generally watch anything once. Plus, I actually didn't mind Dogville, so I was open to the idea that he may actually have made something decent for the second time in his life. You never know.

    Oh, and I'm a fan of Charlotte Gainsbourg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    What was so stupid about it?
    Witnessing hours of ennui take place on screen is not my idea of a productive use of the film medium. After a while it just seems like this was a film by a guy who had no good ideas, but who decided to fill the space instead with art film tropes and Wagner in the hopes that these could make up for the lacking vision. The end result? A tedious, pretentious little film that could give Enter the Void a run for its money in terms of sheer pointlessness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Have you ever been depressed? I don't think I've ever seen a better depiction of the catatonic state of severe depression on film...
    No, I've never been depressed. After reading Prozac Nation, however, I did discover that it's just a really fucking boring subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    I guess the fact that his work produces such strong emotion in you is something of a recommendation. There is so little in modern cinema to become animated about in any way...
    No, it's more like the difference between seeing a fender-bender and a train wreck. You would be more affected by the train wreck than by the fender-bender, but only because it's that much more horrible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    Hatred probably pleases him as much as praise... Possibly more.
    Yes, because he's so pretentious and full of himself that he takes it as a sign that he's doing something right...something provocative. He thinks he's a provocateur, and no amount of "no, Lars, your shit is just bad" would convince him otherwise.

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    He is INTP, after all.
    INTP? That's a weird one, even with N bias. I would have thought (with N bias in mind) that he would be called INFP or some other F before INTP.

    I really just think he's an ISFP, though. He's almost the worst stereotype of one, unfortunately...big feelings (Fi), little ideas (bad Ni and bad Te), mix it in an audio/visual medium (Se), et voila!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Because they were all up on Lars Von Trier's jock, and still are to some extent (even though he ruined shit for himself with his stupid Hitler comments at Cannes.) His films really are good examples of how a person can take a dump on a piece of paper and call it art.
    The other movie that frequently gets a free pass is 2001. Although I like the movie, it's really little more than a special effects demo reel, which is a common criticism of today's movies. The fact that 2001 reached classic status is no excuse, and ultimately, 2010 was the better movie overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    No, I've never been depressed. After reading Prozac Nation, however, I did discover that it's just a really fucking boring subject.
    I've been depressed, but it is a boring subject. Probably one of those "you had to be there" things. Or maybe that's Se talking.

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    Prometheus was a pile of shit. The intro scene was the best in the film, says it all.

    I just watched The Fighter, liked it a lot, 8.4/10.

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