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    Just saw the last episode. WTF. Won't be anyone left before long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Just saw the last episode. WTF. Won't be anyone left before long.
    That's what I thought when Ned Stark got the ax. (Spoilers: Ned Stark is dead.) And now, even though you see how influential his death was, it feels so far away ago... like, it mattered, clearly, but the story did not fall to pieces with his passing. Everything keeps on moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randomnity View Post
    I haven't read the books and since the central focus of the 1st few episodes were the starks for me they are the central characters. So seeing them die without having a sense of where the show is going (justice being served) is upsetting. Also they wanted to be left alone. So the whole affair feels unjust. yes I do understand that the characters aren't that black and white (except for maybe cersi and joeffry) but the starks are surely 'white' characters compared to the rest of the gray ones. Even tywin is a gray character. He is simply trying to protect his family, which to him is the only right thing to do and he doesn't seem persue any selfish gains. Even Danny's character is a 'good' character but she is a conquerer. Take back what is hers maybe but she is taking a willing risk against the people who thought they didn't need her/her family anymore. So if she wins she deserves it, if she loses it was a risk that didn't pay off. The starks are not the same. It's a matter of 'survival' and just for them. However Robb should have recognized stanis as the king. It was kind of confusing why he didn't do so. (Was it clear in the books?) If the starks did a mistake that was it (and not keeping his word to frey of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyuuei View Post
    That's what I thought when Ned Stark got the ax. (Spoilers: Ned Stark is dead.) And now, even though you see how influential his death was, it feels so far away ago... like, it mattered, clearly, but the story did not fall to pieces with his passing. Everything keeps on moving.
    So true. I thought the show would feel meaningless without him. Now I almost can't remember him. Goes to show how well the story is written and the advantages of having so many characters. But like I said above the starks seem so central to the show and therefore even if there would be a satisfying ending it would feel like some of the important (your favourite) characters aren't there to enjoy it. Also something that the book doesn't have to worry about but the show would have to is the actor factor. People/fans could start to identify with the actors as much as with the characters. Of course I realize that the latter point is thinking too much to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    So true. I thought the show would feel meaningless without him. Now I almost can't remember him. Goes to show how well the story is written and the advantages of having so many characters. But like I said above the starks seem so central to the show and therefore even if there would be a satisfying ending it would feel like some of the important (your favourite) characters aren't there to enjoy it. Also something that the book doesn't have to worry about but the show would have to is the actor factor. People/fans could start to identify with the actors as much as with the characters. Of course I realize that the latter point is thinking too much to it.
    Yeah this is one of the unavoidable things with shows vs books. In books you can have several characters be central. In the show, fans almost require a 'main character' at all times. Naturally the Starks are central because everything happens as a result of Ned. He was the glue for the peace of the realm. But now, we'll get to shift.. we'll get to see others come to light, and learn more about characters that have been desperately needing answers until Robb, too, is a distant echo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riva View Post
    I haven't read the books and since the central focus of the 1st few episodes were the starks for me they are the central characters. So seeing them die without having a sense of where the show is going (justice being served) is upsetting. Also they wanted to be left alone. So the whole affair feels unjust. yes I do understand that the characters aren't that black and white (except for maybe cersi and joeffry) but the starks are surely 'white' characters compared to the rest of the gray ones.
    Completely agree. This is how I feel about it exactly. There is Jon Snow but then he is sort of a Stark.

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    This is the best description of Game of Thrones I've heard thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highlander View Post
    Completely agree. This is how I feel about it exactly. There is Jon Snow but then he is sort of a Stark.
    And he was always way more interesting than Robb.

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    I hope GRRM doesn't let everyone live happily ever after in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoBiscuit View Post
    And he was always way more interesting than Robb.
    I was never really invested much in Robb or his wife but the mother was a good character.

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