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    Quote Originally Posted by Totenkindly View Post
    I thought in the show Benjen said Bran would meet the Night King at the Wall, but I haven't rewatched to confirm.

    Are you drawing from the books here? Or was there a different comment I missed that you are referring to?
    I was pretty sure that was from dialog in this last episode. I'll dig it up this evening to confirm.
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    I went back and rewatched parts of the episode.

    he says (something very close to), "One way or another, the Night King will find his way to the world of men. And when he does, you'll [Bran] be waiting/ready for him."

    So it's not really clear where they will meet, exactly. Pretty much as soon as they hit the Wall, but could be anywhere lower as well.


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    1. I think one reason Margaery confused me at the end is that, when I rewatched the scene with her/Tommen, she's DARN good. I mean, she's talking very much in the language of sincere/earnest religious conversion that I am familiar with from all my years as part of a faith + moral introspection. She doesn't sound duplicitous, and in fact what she describes (as how she would "put on shows of helping the poor" for example) to pretend to be a good person, well, that's exactly correct. She DID do that. Normally she has some "tells" -- inflection, context, something -- to give her away in the past, but her it just plays very straight.

    Tommen even is confused, because even HE is more skeptical of the Sparrow than she sounds at that time.

    So either she isn't lying, OR she didn't let Tommen in on her manipulations (so she's manipulating him), or she talked to him off-camera which we didn't see so that he would play along as well.

    There's some interesting camera play between her and the Sparrow and Olenna when the army arrives. Margaery looks confused and concerned when she sees her grandmother and when listening to how the Sparrow is playing things. So, yes, obviously if she is playing them all, her grandmother doesn't know. The look on her face could be shame or it could simply be, "Crap, I was taking care of this, to get back to the Keep, so then we could turn on the Sparrow, and now if the soldiers attack, everything could go to hell and even my grandmother could be in danger." Like, somehow her political manipulations got her in over her head.

    It'll be interesting to see....


    2.I like Meera a lot. She has been a faceless character, kind of a third fiddle. But she finally gets a few moments to shine in the beginning of the episode. I felt so bad for her when she's trying to drag Bran along and just can't it, it's beyond her. The way she covers him with herself and tells him she's so sorry... just a really good minor moment.


    3. I listened to the Arya/Lady Crane thing again (so good), and what I missed the first time is that perhaps there was some identification with Cersei there, but when she is describing how the "character Cersei" in the play might respond to the death of her son, she was describing HERSELF over the death of her father in King's Landing: "She's upset because she never got to say goodbye. She wouldn't just be sad... she'd be ANGRY."

    Probably others picked up on that, but I missed it on first pass.

    Also, it's not just the younger actress who hates Lady Crane. They all dislike her (or at least feel a little jealous) because she's talented enough that everyone in the audience -- people and animals -- likes her and ignores the efforts of the others as if they did not exist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totenkindly View Post
    I agree with you about the "killing" trend, and I felt like it was for the same reason: While some of the plotline acceleration was appreciated, there were other situations (like the Dorne thing, or Osha, and so forth) that felt more out of convenience and thus lost some of their dramatic steam. I felt the same way about Barristan as well (and I haven't read the books); it seemed to me like they cleared him out so as to make the return of Jorah a possibility, create a space for Tyrion and Varys to run the city, etc. But he deserved better.
    Yeah, Barristan he had a really good scene in the book that they never got to in the show because they killed him off before that.

    I actually really liked the episode last night. Better than some of the earlier episodes of the season. I think my favorite thing was the stuff with Sam; that all worked quite well.

    I too thought there was more going on with Margaery, at least until Olenna Tyrell said "They've beaten us." Now I'm not so sure. She did get out of a walk of shame, however.

    I also liked seeing the Freys again and what was going on with that situation. I wonder what's going to happen when Brienne and Jaime meet.

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    Game of Thrones Final Seasons Will Be Shorter, a Director Confirms


    ehhh...... they might only be down to eleven episodes left in the series (???)

    Okay, I wish they had found a more stable pace. Going from drag-out to pell-mell hasn't really been cool, they really needed to give a little more room to breathe to some of the things happening this season.

    Not only will they beat GRRM's book schedule, but the show could be over for years and he might never finish the books if he passes on. How weird.
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    Just saw the opening few minutes of Episode 7. HAHA! Hell, yeah! (You'll know it when you see it.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Totenkindly View Post
    Just saw the opening few minutes of Episode 7. HAHA! Hell, yeah! (You'll know it when you see it.)
    I like to rock n' roll all night and *part* of every day. I usually have errands... I can only rock from like 1-3.

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    Some interesting stuff in the episode:

    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

    “Pleasure to me is wonder—the unexplored, the unexpected, the thing that is hidden and the changeless thing that lurks behind superficial mutability. To trace the remote in the immediate; the eternal in the ephemeral; the past in the present; the infinite in the finite; these are to me the springs of delight and beauty.” ~ H.P. Lovecraft

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    Hmm, this was a slow-paced episode (comparatively), although some key things did take shape:


    3 more episodes left.

    Oh, yay, Bron!! Back in his old form.

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    I haven't watched the newest episode yet, but here's a little treat:



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    Am i the only one who thiink the smaller houses look better than the houses of the lords? They have such homely looks.

    Winterfell is probably the ugliest house so far.

    The bear island house makes me think of my grandma's place.
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